Over revving, should it be a concern when selling?
Over revving, should it be a concern when selling?
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MDian

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2,893 posts

201 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Considering selling my motor and expect that who ever buys will want a 111-point check doing, despite it still being well within warranty. I've owned the car for a year and the dealer (who had to register it) before that for a few months. I'm told the dealership registered it as required by Porsche and the manager used it. I know I've not hit the limiter and haven't shifted wrong, and it has been around 100 hours of driving (on an average of 30mph) so should I have any concerns about overrevs given the timescale, or is it just a case of wait and see at the time?

(yes, thinking ahead of myself here but I have a habit of worrying!)

Edited by MDian on Tuesday 4th June 14:45

exigepete

1,005 posts

233 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Did you not ask for a printout before you bought it? Depends what level, use the Search function, this topic is a minefield frown

Magic919

14,510 posts

231 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Just get it checked for overrevs. How else will you know?

sootyvrs

364 posts

172 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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I personally would not worry about it.

Bottom line is that you know that you have looked after it and you can only assume the dealer did too so it's not as if you are being dishonest in thee sale.

If (big if) it has over revs and the new buyer is unwilling to part with his £ then you are in no worse a position anyhow as he wouldn't buy it if you had a print out with over revs!

Not sure if you can tell over revs by date but I guess you have a good case with the OPC if they had done the over revs while they owned it.

Good luck

mollytherocker

14,465 posts

239 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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What's feeding your concern? Because it was a demo?

MDian

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Monday 3rd June 2013
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mollytherocker said:
What's feeding your concern? Because it was a demo?
Well, it was a managers car but it would be naive to think it hadn't been used for some customer demonstrations too, so I guess that is my concern, as it certainly hasn't been mistreated in my care, I've not even hit the limiter, I always change around 7,000 when 'on it'. Unfortunately I never asked them for a readout, but wasn't as clued up on Porches back then and assumed (rightly or wrongly) that there would be absolutely no issue if sold by an OPC.

Probably worrying for nothing, but need to be prepared. I might just get a 111-point check done anyway so I know.

You can tell the last event by the point in hours of which it took place, which is why I'm wondering if a car over 100 hours since any possible event would get a clean bill of health anyway. I've trawled through the other threads on this and cannot seem to find a conclusive answer.

Hopefully I'm worrying for nothing, there has been no suggestion of it being an issue, I'm just over thinking it maybe.

Edited by MDian on Monday 3rd June 19:35

Magic919

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231 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Depends on range of overrevs. Doesn't need an OPC to check it.

Angelus

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194 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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Where are you? I have a Durametric and will check for you if you're near? smile

MDian

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Angelus said:
Where are you? I have a Durametric and will check for you if you're near? smile
Sadly no where near Scotland, but thank you so much for the kind offer.

MDian

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Magic919 said:
Depends on range of overrevs. Doesn't need an OPC to check it.
This is very true which makes my thread nothing more than thoughts rather than anything more firm. I've asked the original dealership for their print out assuming they did one at the time of sale (car was only a few months old and purchased before they planned to sell it, so not sure it has a 111), so will see, as I know for sure that I've not added to the results since.

BertBert

21,270 posts

241 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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I really wouldn't worry about it. You bought it a couple of months old and have looked after it. Why on earth would you think it might have over-revs?

And if you did check it out and find it has over-revs, what are you going to do next?

Bert

m33ufo

4,959 posts

261 months

Monday 3rd June 2013
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You obviously should have gone for the PDK!

Personally I wouldn't worry about it. If the buyer wants a check then consider it then.

If the worst happens I'll take it off your hands for a substantial discount wink

MDian

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BertBert said:
I really wouldn't worry about it. You bought it a couple of months old and have looked after it. Why on earth would you think it might have over-revs?
Only reason being that if it has been used for demonstrations (which I'm told it wasn't but who knows), then it may have had a bad driver hitting all the wrong gears. I've certainly not given it such abuse, in fact, I've driven it far too pedestrian!


Edited by MDian on Tuesday 4th June 14:46

mrdemon

21,146 posts

295 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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They cannot sell a car with over revs in range 3 or above now without more checks, OPC are quite strict.
I would not worry about it.

MDian

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mrdemon said:
They cannot sell a car with over revs in range 3 or above now without more checks, OPC are quite strict.
I would not worry about it.
Do you know when that came into force, as mine was purchased last June. Hopefully the salesman will come back to me with a definitive answer as he has on other things. I'm going to get a check done anyway for own piece of mind.

bullettneil

324 posts

179 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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this probaly sounds daft.is over rev when its hit the limiter or is there a point before that classed as over rev?

most of the water cooled are redline at 7k arent they?is that where the limiter is or the point just before?

mrdemon

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Tuesday 4th June 2013
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worth having a print out for a buyer any way, most ask now days.

it used to be only rev range 4 and above, but now it's rev range 3 and above, which is quite a new thing.
every OPC car has a PPI before sale, so I would say your car is fine.

bullettneil

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Tuesday 4th June 2013
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rev range 4?and 3? whats does that mean?

MDian

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bullettneil said:
rev range 4?and 3? whats does that mean?
Not sure of the exact rpm ranges on the Cayman, but range 1-2 generally mean up to and including blipping the soft limiter which is quite common; beyond that is either hitting the hard limiter or engaging the wrong gear and momentarily hitting high revs, such as shifting from 3rd to 2nd instead of 4th etc.

bullettneil

324 posts

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Tuesday 4th June 2013
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oh.tbh ive never got near any limiter in my 911.always change around 6500 didnt know they had a soft limiter.
the only way i can see a cock up is going from 6th to 3rd instead of 5th if i was to.