Three month notice period
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SteveDyson

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98 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Hi,

Is this normal to be on three month notice period?

I have got a job offer for a Senior Developer role but on contract it says i will have to give a three month notice period before i join the other company.

In the past, i have worked on one and two month notice period but three months seems bit too much. May its normal for all senior roles as it gives a more time to employer to find a suitable person.

GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

193 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Not unusual IMHO.

Anonamoose

442 posts

164 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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They have levels where I work, the lower grades have a 1month period, middle have 3 months and higher have 6 months.

Not massively unusual.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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SteveDyson said:
Hi,

Is this normal to be on three month notice period?

I have got a job offer for a Senior Developer role but on contract it says i will have to give a three month notice period before i join the other company.

In the past, i have worked on one and two month notice period but three months seems bit too much. May its normal for all senior roles as it gives a more time to employer to find a suitable person.
It's not unusual.

Remember that it works both ways.

SteveDyson

Original Poster:

98 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I don't want to give them ny wrong impression but just wondering if it is worth negotiating it before i sign the contract?


whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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swerni said:
whoami said:
SteveDyson said:
Hi,

Is this normal to be on three month notice period?

I have got a job offer for a Senior Developer role but on contract it says i will have to give a three month notice period before i join the other company.

In the past, i have worked on one and two month notice period but three months seems bit too much. May its normal for all senior roles as it gives a more time to employer to find a suitable person.
It's not unusual.

Remember that it works both ways.
This.

I'd happily sign one with 6 or 12 months if someone would let me.
I agree.

It always puzzles me when folk assert that this is some sort of trick being played by an employer.

OP - this isn't aimed at you but I've heard it so many times in the past.

Jonnas

1,004 posts

192 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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It doesn't really work both ways, it really only works in your favour. I'm on 3 months but I just agreed to work 8 weeks with my employer. I could have walked that day if I'd have wanted. There's not a lot they can do. However I have some loyalty to the people I'm leaving behind and it never pays to burn your bridges.

Mind you, two weeks into my notice and the communication dries up, everyone starts going around you and I may as well not really be there. Unless they find a replacement I may as well be spending time at home with the kids instead!

Just sign the contract and good luck with the new job!

SteveDyson

Original Poster:

98 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I am reading through the contract and it says


The appointment in this position as XXX shall commence on xxxxxxxxxx and the employee shall be employed on a full time basis for an unspecified period of time.


What is meant by "unspecified"?

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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SteveDyson said:
I am reading through the contract and it says


The appointment in this position as XXX shall commence on xxxxxxxxxx and the employee shall be employed on a full time basis for an unspecified period of time.


What is meant by "unspecified"?
It means that neither party knows the end date rather than the specific date of a fixed term contract.

SteveDyson

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98 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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So its a normal clause? which means permanent position?

skahigh

2,023 posts

160 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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There is nothing that says employee notice and employer notice has to be the same, the contract may state otherwise.

There is legal minimum notice requirements in the uk as detailed here:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/18/part/I...

3 months seems to be quite common in software positions (I have no idea why really).

Unspecified clause is normal in a permanent employment contract.

SteveDyson

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98 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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TERMINATION OF EMPLOYMENT

10.1 The Employment may be terminated by either Party giving to the other not less than three months (3) months notice in writing or payment of sum equivalent of three (3) month’s salary in lieu thereof.

10.2 The Company may require the Employee to remain away from work during the notice period. Any payment in lieu of notice will have such sums due under Clauses 6 or 9 and any other sums which may be due deducted at source. Where the Company requires the Employee to remain away from work during the notice period (whether the Employee or the Company gave notice) the Employee is required to comply with all other terms of this Agreement and any other conditions laid down by the Company and whilst on full pay during such time, you will not be permitted to work for any other person, firm, corporate body or on his/her own behalf without the Company's prior written permission.

10.3 The Company may terminate the Employment without notice or payment in lieu of notice in the event of gross misconduct by the Employee.

Landlord

12,689 posts

286 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Assuming it's a permanent role, not a contract, then it's very normal for senior roles. I'm on a 3 month notice period. I like it personally as it gives me some measure of comfort that should the worse happen, I'll have 3 months to find something else.

If it's a contract role, run a mile.. You'll never, IME, find anyone who'll wait 3 months for a contractor should you wish to move on. If that makes sense.

skahigh

2,023 posts

160 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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SteveDyson said:
TERMINATION OF EMPLOYMENT

10.1 The Employment may be terminated by either Party giving to the other not less than three months (3) months notice in writing or payment of sum equivalent of three (3) month’s salary in lieu thereof.

10.2 The Company may require the Employee to remain away from work during the notice period. Any payment in lieu of notice will have such sums due under Clauses 6 or 9 and any other sums which may be due deducted at source. Where the Company requires the Employee to remain away from work during the notice period (whether the Employee or the Company gave notice) the Employee is required to comply with all other terms of this Agreement and any other conditions laid down by the Company and whilst on full pay during such time, you will not be permitted to work for any other person, firm, corporate body or on his/her own behalf without the Company's prior written permission.

10.3 The Company may terminate the Employment without notice or payment in lieu of notice in the event of gross misconduct by the Employee.
All good then, 3 months both ways. Extra job security.

whoami

13,200 posts

269 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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SteveDyson said:
TERMINATION OF EMPLOYMENT

10.1 The Employment may be terminated by either Party giving to the other not less than three months (3) months notice in writing or payment of sum equivalent of three (3) month’s salary in lieu thereof.

10.2 The Company may require the Employee to remain away from work during the notice period. Any payment in lieu of notice will have such sums due under Clauses 6 or 9 and any other sums which may be due deducted at source. Where the Company requires the Employee to remain away from work during the notice period (whether the Employee or the Company gave notice) the Employee is required to comply with all other terms of this Agreement and any other conditions laid down by the Company and whilst on full pay during such time, you will not be permitted to work for any other person, firm, corporate body or on his/her own behalf without the Company's prior written permission.

10.3 The Company may terminate the Employment without notice or payment in lieu of notice in the event of gross misconduct by the Employee.
Fine and perfectly normal.

Dominicc01

530 posts

196 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Normal. I've been on 3 month notice periods for several years. It can be a pain when moving on, as usually a new employer wants you ASAP, but generally they will have a 3 month notice period in their own contracts, so accept this.

HannsG

3,135 posts

163 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I had to work a 3 month notice period....I nearly lost the plot towards the end

wiggy001

7,330 posts

300 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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As already stated, quite normal and "a good thing" from your point of view.

I wasn't too sure about it in my last company, until they started getting rid of people by way of compromise agreements where they had to start payoff negotiations at 3 months' money thumbup

Slurms

1,254 posts

233 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Nah it's not unusual and remember most employers will negotiate on notice periods if you do decide that you want to move on in the future.

Occasionally they get used for gardening leave purposes where they will want to prevent you taking commercially sensitive knowledge to a competitor or similar but more often that is dealt with via other sections in typical contracts.

DJRC

23,563 posts

265 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Its not that usual in the UK to be honest, certainly in the engineering world. All my Uk jobs have been one month notice periods. My Swiss job however has been a 3 month notice period and I just handed it in an hour ago. Like someone else mentioned on here above, I will also be offering them an 8 week notice period instead of 3 months.