REMOVING COOLANT AND ANTI FREEZE !!
REMOVING COOLANT AND ANTI FREEZE !!
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tonyvan

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913 posts

231 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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hi, does anyone have any bright ideas of draining ALL the coolant from the noble.app therE is no bottom hose on our cars,and obviously i dont want to remove the engine and flip it over to get the coolant out. i need to remove all the anti freeze and water from the system.the reason why will be revealed soon,but it must be free of any water. any help would be appreciated.
many thanks.

mgbond

6,749 posts

255 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Can't it be sucked out?

Adrian W

15,117 posts

251 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Jack up the back a long way then disconnect the bottom hose from the radiator and take off the rad cap, I would think that should do it, replace bottom hose and fill up by loosening top hose to bleed it.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

259 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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do you need the water out of the whole system - or just the engine ?

tonyvan

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913 posts

231 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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i hear wot ur saying Adrian, but the lowest hose is at the thermostat i beleive. i need to remove all the anti freeze/ water, every drop!! the coolant that will come out the bottom hose at radiator is still only at thermostat level,how do you get the coolant out of the block??

tonyvan

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913 posts

231 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Gadge, i need to get all the water out including the engine

Adrian W

15,117 posts

251 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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To get any more than that out, short of turning it upside down and shaking it I reckon you would have to pull out a core plug

Jim O.

486 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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You should be able to pull the block drains to drain the engine block.

tonyvan

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913 posts

231 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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ok so the block drains may be an option. where are they located, and can they be replaced and where are they avaliable from? sorry about the questions. must be the only bloody car with no true bottom hose,or low level drain plug.. Grrrrrrrrrrr

Adrian W

15,117 posts

251 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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I'm guessing either side of the block half way down, why do you need to get every drop of coolant out?

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

259 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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maybe flush it out with something that will evaporate like methanol / petrol

Hollowpockets

5,909 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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Can the system be purged with air? Just need to make sure not to use too much pressure.


Davie M12

194 posts

156 months

Wednesday 5th June 2013
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What about blowing compressed air through it to blast the coolant out?

Jim O.

486 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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The block drains are plugs that have a tapered pipe thread - my guess is that if you can't reuse the ones you remove, and can't find one at an auto supply or from Ford, you should be able to get them at a plumbing supply or a hardware store. They look like they're fairly high on the block, but they are at the bottom of the water jackets, so you will get rid of almost all the water. If you're going to something like Evans waterless coolant, Evans has a prep liquid that is heavier than water, so you can use that to displace any remaining water...

tonyvan

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913 posts

231 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Hi JimO yes thats what i am using,the Evans waterless coolant,and their prep fluid.to maximiye the effect,no more than 3 percent of water can be present.i have been given the oppertunity to try and test this product on our cars.ive tried allsorts of water wetters etc,and those ive tested havnt worked.this product appears to be different,and from what ive seen in 2 other independant test,it does as it says on the tin.the best bit about it,is that it app worls with a very low pressure in the entire system,and i have witnessed a radiator cap removed imediatly

Hollowpockets

5,909 posts

239 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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A friend had this stuff put in a sagaris that overheated a couple of times and it seems to have been fine since, but nobles don't really have overheating problems, more often than not just rubber hoses failing if they haven't been upgraded to silicone, which will happen anyway and the Evans stuff isn't cheap.

Hope i

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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how much does it cost to fill the cooling system ?

is it flammable ?

tonyvan

Original Poster:

913 posts

231 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Gadge i will reply to ur questions 2nite.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

263 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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Gadgeroonie said:
is it flammable ?
Yes, but at reasonably high temps. That said if it sprayed on a red hot turbo....

My problem with all these products (regardless if the actually work or not) is what do you do if you're miles from home and a load of it falls out. I guess you could dump it all out and fill it with the friendly farmers best pond water, but that could get costly.

I'd be interested to see the results away. I'll probably smell nice if nothing else biggrin

tonyvan

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913 posts

231 months

Thursday 6th June 2013
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it has no smell to it.!!!
yes it is kinda expensive, because unfortunatly our cars hold 0ver 11 litres of coolant.the reason i became interested in this product is because ive tried all sorts of water wetters,and havnt found anything that would help reduce surface heat,and possibly prevent boil over. our system is under a lot of pressure,and although owners are saying our cars dont overheat, this product looks like it could help in reducing not only surface temps within the engine and cylinder block,but as it runs a little or no pressure due to the higher boiling point it puts less stress on the head and all the hoses.i cannot, or wouldnt attempt to remove my header tank cap for over an hour because of the heat and pressure in the tank and associated hoses.now if this product does in fact run little or no pressure,shurly that can only be a good thing for not only reliability and longlivity of the engine and hoses.when we turn our engines off they still cook and boil up the water.luckly i can and am going to test this product to see if it actually does work as it claims.i will be monitoring and doing before and after tests with this product.i shall also put it in my bike and see how it fairs in that as well.,
as i said, i witnessed a motoross bike that had just come off the track after a 20 min race and the radiator cap was removed as soon as the engine was switched off. i was expecting an explosion and to see coolant everywhere. to my surprise not only did the cap come straight off,with no explosion, but not a drop of coolant was lost or seen to come out the top of the radiator.(and yes it was full of coolant)
my conclusion to that is this stuff appears to workand from what ive seen so far looks very promising.
look up their web site. Evans waterless coolant,and judge for yourself.