best cheap satnav?
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Have a look at the TomTom Start 25 EU. Just got one for my dad for about £130, but came with free lifetime updates. Those were the clincher for me as otherwise the units become obsolete and with updates at 70 quid or so, uneconomical to update. Other than that it's standard TomTom but with a nice big 5" screen.
Aye I was wondering about that, I do have an iPhone but last time I used it it seemed quite slow. Then again the latest satnavs seem to have this problem too so maybe this is the answer. But won't I need to have roaming switched on while in Europe for that to work? Which is expensive? Sorry to be a bit ignorant, I'm no spring chicken!
Is it for use in the car? What iPhone is it?
If it's for use abroad, I could strongly advise going for a navigation app, like CoPilot Live.
Pro dedicated app vs GMaps:
However, the App and a decent suction mount should set you back no more than £50, and you'll have a decent GPS that you have on you all the time.
Depending on the model, you'll go through your batter in a matter of hours.
We travelled through europe with the SGS2, Copilot live and exomount mounted in the convertible and really couldn't fault it. The only thing I had to say was that it had POI (Hotels, restaurants), but they were fairly limited and a bit outdated, especially compared to the omniscience of Google Maps.
Anyway, use Copilot live on a weekly basis on the Android phone, advised a mate to get it for the iPhone, we both use it very regularly on the bikes and it really is a decent bit of kit. One of the great things is that you have the thing on you at all times, and just as with cameras I'd say the best GPS is the one you have on you at the time you need it.
If it's for use abroad, I could strongly advise going for a navigation app, like CoPilot Live.
Pro dedicated app vs GMaps:
- Route calculating goes faster as the maps are on the device
- No signal required
- No roaming costs
- Better battery life due to no data usage (I really notice the difference)
- initial cost
- uses local storage (~2GB for europe iirc)
- maps are not as up-to-date as Google Maps, but no problem most of the time
- less advanced search options than GMaps, like all business names, misspelled street names,...
However, the App and a decent suction mount should set you back no more than £50, and you'll have a decent GPS that you have on you all the time.
Depending on the model, you'll go through your batter in a matter of hours.
We travelled through europe with the SGS2, Copilot live and exomount mounted in the convertible and really couldn't fault it. The only thing I had to say was that it had POI (Hotels, restaurants), but they were fairly limited and a bit outdated, especially compared to the omniscience of Google Maps.
Anyway, use Copilot live on a weekly basis on the Android phone, advised a mate to get it for the iPhone, we both use it very regularly on the bikes and it really is a decent bit of kit. One of the great things is that you have the thing on you at all times, and just as with cameras I'd say the best GPS is the one you have on you at the time you need it.
Blackpuddin said:
It is for use in the car, for an upcoming Italy drive, and it's an iPhone 4. Co-Pilot sounds interesting, but what are the costs of using it abroad? Do I need roaming enabled to use it?
try to read my post 
No roaming costs

Maps stored locally.
It's fine on an iPhone 4 tbh, we used it in Italy last year and it was great. The "tunnel mode" works quite well as well, which is great in Italy.
ZesPak said:
try to read my post 
No roaming costs
Maps stored locally.
It's fine on an iPhone 4 tbh, we used it in Italy last year and it was great. The "tunnel mode" works quite well as well, which is great in Italy.
Sorry, I did read it but I'm just not as techy as you, didn't realise local map storage meant no roaming. One of the penalties of age. 
No roaming costs

Maps stored locally.
It's fine on an iPhone 4 tbh, we used it in Italy last year and it was great. The "tunnel mode" works quite well as well, which is great in Italy.
Thanks for the advice. Blackpuddin said:
App store has Co-Pilot in HD or non-HD versions for the same £34.99. Is there any point in not having the HD version?
I thought the "HD" would be an iPad version?Dunnow, only use th android versions now and it just scales properly to the device (1 time purchase as well
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