Who actually pays for music?
Discussion
JDFR said:
Of course everyone here pays for the music they download but all my "friends" get their music from torrents and other sources.
How many other people have friends who do the same?
I think most people do now. How many other people have friends who do the same?
I am a vinyl addict, so not only do I pay for my music, I pay double!
It all evens out though because most of the older albums that I buy on CD are available for 1p + postage on the Amazon Marketplace.
At the prices of second hand CDs today, I don't think there is really much point on downloading a poor quality, compressed copy from a torrent or equivalent. However, I am old and there is a whole generation under 25 who have never paid anything for music, so the idea of paying even a small amount must seem quite alien to them.
I have friends who download from YouTube. Apparently there are websites where they will convert the .flv to .mp3, or some simply play the video and use Audacity to record the audio as an mp3. Apparently the sound, when listened to on an mp3 player is very good. There's loads of stuff on YouTube, a lot of it in complete album form.
kingston12 said:
I think most people do now.
I am a vinyl addict, so not only do I pay for my music, I pay double!
It all evens out though because most of the older albums that I buy on CD are available for 1p + postage on the Amazon Marketplace.
At the prices of second hand CDs today, I don't think there is really much point on downloading a poor quality, compressed copy from a torrent or equivalent. However, I am old and there is a whole generation under 25 who have never paid anything for music, so the idea of paying even a small amount must seem quite alien to them.
I'm the same as a former DJ I've been conditioned to actually own a hard copy of the music I listen to. I begrudge paying close to CD prices for a download. I'd rather buy the CD and rip it to wav. I am a vinyl addict, so not only do I pay for my music, I pay double!
It all evens out though because most of the older albums that I buy on CD are available for 1p + postage on the Amazon Marketplace.
At the prices of second hand CDs today, I don't think there is really much point on downloading a poor quality, compressed copy from a torrent or equivalent. However, I am old and there is a whole generation under 25 who have never paid anything for music, so the idea of paying even a small amount must seem quite alien to them.
singlecoil said:
I have friends who download from YouTube. Apparently there are websites where they will convert the .flv to .mp3, or some simply play the video and use Audacity to record the audio as an mp3. Apparently the sound, when listened to on an mp3 player is very good. There's loads of stuff on YouTube, a lot of it in complete album form.
I've not checked all the youtube rippers granted but most of them convert the music in an awful way. If I had to have something off youtube I'd sooner record it in real time onto another format and save it that way. singlecoil said:
I have friends who download from YouTube. Apparently there are websites where they will convert the .flv to .mp3, or some simply play the video and use Audacity to record the audio as an mp3. Apparently the sound, when listened to on an mp3 player is very good. There's loads of stuff on YouTube, a lot of it in complete album form.
If you have iTunes match, I've been told you can download from Youtube as a MP3, add to your library and then iTunes will convert match to a 256kbit version when you redownload.Used to do this, but I now subscribe to spotify, buy from iTunes / Google Play or as above with cheap secondhand CDs. The main reason people downloaded previously was due to lack of accessibility. The iTunes library also got 'legalised' by running it through iTunes match, deleting everything and redownloading the entire catalogue from iTunes.
You'll always get people who will pirate for pirating sake though, like digital hoarders. They are the same sort of people who will always rush off to download a cinema rip of a movie since they see it as 'sticking it to the man'.
You'll always get people who will pirate for pirating sake though, like digital hoarders. They are the same sort of people who will always rush off to download a cinema rip of a movie since they see it as 'sticking it to the man'.
Edited by devnull on Friday 7th June 12:22
Miguel Alvarez said:
singlecoil said:
I have friends who download from YouTube. Apparently there are websites where they will convert the .flv to .mp3, or some simply play the video and use Audacity to record the audio as an mp3. Apparently the sound, when listened to on an mp3 player is very good. There's loads of stuff on YouTube, a lot of it in complete album form.
I've not checked all the youtube rippers granted but most of them convert the music in an awful way. If I had to have something off youtube I'd sooner record it in real time onto another format and save it that way. Hub said:
Me. I buy all my music. I want the artists I like to receive the royalties so that the carry on making music I like.
Pretty much this. I just buy stuff I like. Cannot be arsed with ripping and the poor quality. Tend to buy CD's. put them in my itunes and then box the cds in the loft.
Pickled said:
I'm a big Spotify fan, gives me the ability to listen to loads of music that I wouldn't have normally, and for a measly £10 a month I can have it on all my devices. All my vinyl, CDs and cassettes are now boxed up and living in the garage.
This. Will never buy another CD again unless ACDC release any more albums.JDFR said:
If you have iTunes match, I've been told you can download from Youtube as a MP3, add to your library and then iTunes will convert match to a 256kbit version when you redownload.
A friend of my best friends sisters mother does this as I believe other people mightI buy vinyl when funds allow
MP3s sound f
king st and are only useful as a convenience when in the car, gym etc.
I just buy the cd and then iTunes it for convenience. Vinyl for when I want to really listen to something though.
Why not just pay for it? fking gypsy otherwise.
I think Spotify is a good answer for people who are happy to put convenience over quality and offers a credible alternative to stealing it, but its not for me.
king st and are only useful as a convenience when in the car, gym etc.I just buy the cd and then iTunes it for convenience. Vinyl for when I want to really listen to something though.
Why not just pay for it? f
king gypsy otherwise.I think Spotify is a good answer for people who are happy to put convenience over quality and offers a credible alternative to stealing it, but its not for me.
One would have to wonder how the bands affected feel about this.
For instance, I tried putting Pink Floyd full album into the search box and first up is the Division Bell.
Now if I can do this, so can the copyright owners, and YouTube will remove anything they are asked to by the owners, so why haven't they?
For instance, I tried putting Pink Floyd full album into the search box and first up is the Division Bell.
Now if I can do this, so can the copyright owners, and YouTube will remove anything they are asked to by the owners, so why haven't they?
onomatopoeia said:
I buy all my music. On CD, because much as I love vinyl, it wears out. Digital downloads, whether paid for or obtained nefariously, have a tendency to get lost because they are only bits of data and not physical product.
Ignoring the different qualities of pressing for a moment, are you sure its not that your needle is knackered? I've hammered some records with constant scratching over the years and they sound fine(ish). My purchases of late have all been through Bandcamp. Allows streaming to try before you buy, offers lossless formats and helps support a lot of independent labels and unsigned bands. Also use Spotify for streaming at home. Only CD purchases these days tend to be obscure finds in second hand shops. Don't use torrents or rip from YouTube.
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