Keen on being a Diplomat in UK - any guidance please?
Keen on being a Diplomat in UK - any guidance please?
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Ray Singh

Original Poster:

3,082 posts

259 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I am interested in bcoming a Diplomat in the UK. I have checked through the criteria listed on many websites offering advice and feel that I meet these.

Can anyone give me advice on what my next steps are?


Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Diplomat for whom?

Ray Singh

Original Poster:

3,082 posts

259 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Well, I am a british born Indian who is currently working within the UK defence industry as a civil servant.

So i thought that a diplomat for the UK to india would be my easiest option.


sunoco69

5,274 posts

194 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I think what Eric meant was are you British or Indian?

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Exactly.

The first attribute I would expect a diplomat to have would be clarity of expression smile

Ray Singh

Original Poster:

3,082 posts

259 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Eric Mc said:
Exactly.

The first attribute I would expect a diplomat to have would be clarity of expression smile
Nice one....

I am british.

sunoco69

5,274 posts

194 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Eric Mc said:
The first attribute I would expect a diplomat to have would be clarity of expression smile
clapclapclap

Lee_sec

380 posts

227 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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As a brit you would need to be in another country, and appointed by the state to be a UK Diplomat....?! otherwise you are trying to represent Britain, in Britain?

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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I'm sure the Diplomatic Service has a website of some sort. There should also be internal channels within the Civil Service to allow you to find out what type of people they like to recruit.

I always think that a candidate should have a profile similar to "Carlton Browne of the FO".


sunoco69

5,274 posts

194 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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No, he clearly stated he wanted to represent the UK in India.

I think you are confusing a locally hired embassy worker with a Brit diplomat who would be posted to the embassy.

Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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He wasn't very clear in his original post - which is a bad start for someone who wants to work in diplomacy.

Pickled

2,059 posts

172 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Sorry O/T but saw this listed on the vacancies section...

Foreign Secretary’s Special Representative for Climate Change
Location: London
Salary: Up to £120k

another pointless (expensive!) non - job


Eric Mc

125,607 posts

294 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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And that's only the Foreign Secretary's representative. I bet there's one for

The Prime Minister
The Chancellor of the Exchequer
The Secrety of State for Defence
The Minister of Agriculture

etc etc etc

98elise

32,501 posts

190 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Ray Singh said:
I am interested in becoming a Spy.

Can anyone give me advice on where I can buy a decent tux?
EFA smile

StevieBee

15,286 posts

284 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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The term 'Diplomat' covers a very broad church. At the top of the pile 'Political Diplomats' (Govenors, Ambassadors, etc) tend to be chosen from the known rather than selected from applications.

There are plenty of more basic roles that fall under this umbrella - mainly in trade and investment which is an often overlooked but critically important government function.

If you are looking at being a UK Diplomat in India, then you would be based in India working out of the British Embassy or Consulate Offices. If you are an Indian Diplomat working in the UK then the same would apply but in reverse; working out of the Indian Embassy, employed by the Indian Government.

Pickled said:
Sorry O/T but saw this listed on the vacancies section...

Foreign Secretary’s Special Representative for Climate Change
Location: London
Salary: Up to £120k

another pointless (expensive!) non - job
Putting aside the usual Climate Change debate, the subject itself offers a huge amount of opportunity for UK business across a wide spectrum of industry; waste management, energy, water, agriculture and so on. The money available in many low income / emerging economies is truly staggering. The vast majority of this money comes from donor organisations such as the World Bank or large companies with a vested interest in improving local infrastructure and sustainability of regions in which they operate.

One of the rolls of this job is to lobby / promote / leverage UK companies as and when contracts emerge in these regions in this sector and so help the UK's export figures.

I can provide several examples where we have benefited from directly and indirectly and other companies I know of having also benefited in similar ways to a level that would suggest the £120k salary is remarkably good value. This is not a political comment as we have benefited equally under this roll being governed both by Labour and the current government.

Non-job it 'aint..........although much of course depends upon the person doing the job!



Pickled

2,059 posts

172 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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StevieBee said:
Putting aside the usual Climate Change debate, the subject itself offers a huge amount of opportunity for UK business across a wide spectrum of industry; waste management, energy, water, agriculture and so on. The money available in many low income / emerging economies is truly staggering. The vast majority of this money comes from donor organisations such as the World Bank or large companies with a vested interest in improving local infrastructure and sustainability of regions in which they operate.

One of the rolls of this job is to lobby / promote / leverage UK companies as and when contracts emerge in these regions in this sector and so help the UK's export figures.

I can provide several examples where we have benefited from directly and indirectly and other companies I know of having also benefited in similar ways to a level that would suggest the £120k salary is remarkably good value. This is not a political comment as we have benefited equally under this roll being governed both by Labour and the current government.

Non-job it 'aint..........although much of course depends upon the person doing the job!
Fair point, maybe the job title should be changed to better reflect the role?

ClaphamGT3

12,232 posts

272 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Most diplomats are civil servants in the FCO, with those from other departments filling specialist roles.

If you are already a civil servant, I'm surprised you need to ask the advice of a motoring forum to establish this...

sunoco69

5,274 posts

194 months

Monday 10th June 2013
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Eric Mc said:
He wasn't very clear in his original post - which is a bad start for someone who wants to work in diplomacy.
Sorry Eric, it wasn't meant at you rather at Lee's post.

BertieWooster

4,065 posts

193 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Most diplomats are civil servants in the FCO, with those from other departments filling specialist roles.

If you are already a civil servant, I'm surprised you need to ask the advice of a motoring forum to establish this...
+1

You would need to find a suitable post advertised on the Civil Service jobs website. If you are a civil servant then accessing this should be no problem at all.

Bertie W