MOT tester & LSD
MOT tester & LSD
Author
Discussion

g8ape

Original Poster:

233 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
quotequote all
I was checking out a new to me local MOT tester to see if he would mind me hovering about and generally being a nuisance when he asked if my Griff had an *LSD because if so he would have to road test it rather than use the rollers.

I was initially much impressed by his comment but then got to wondering why this hadn't come up with any other testers as I've had a few cars with LSD's in the past...

Is he just super diligent or has he got old fashioned rollers I wonder, I'm there tomorrow collecting some tyres so will ask.

I just wondered if anyone has an opinion or experience of thisshoot

  • LSD= Limited slip diff.

NNH

1,547 posts

155 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
quotequote all
I think that only applies to 4WD, not 2WD with LSD.

Oldred_V8S

3,764 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
quotequote all
The place I go to always road test the brakes because of the LSD, I have heard of it it in other places too.

Russell Mc

573 posts

174 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
quotequote all
Think the sad fact is most MOT testers simply don't realise they shouldn't do roller brake test on a car with an LSD

carsy

3,019 posts

188 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
quotequote all
This has come up a few times. It seems some testers use the rollers others will do a road test. I think most use the rollers though, It has been suggested putting the lsd through the roller brake test can upset it. Not sure how true it is. Mine the last couple of times has gone on the rollers and the diff is still working as it should. think i will call in on John Reid and ask his opinion tho before my next test.

e600

1,522 posts

175 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
quotequote all
When taking the E Types in I always asked for the tapey meter rather than rollers, and without exception they obliged. Just ask.

g8ape

Original Poster:

233 posts

242 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
quotequote all
Thanks for all the replies, road test for me from now onrotate

rigga

8,798 posts

224 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
quotequote all
Yes lsd equipped cars should be tested with a tapley meter rather than using the rollers,it does the diff no good.
http://www.tapley.org.uk/braketestmeter.html

My tester uses a smaller hand held device rather than the older larger ones that used to sit in the footwell when used.

PeteGriff

1,262 posts

180 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
quotequote all
My regular MOT guy who does the Griff never uses the rollers to test the rear brakes, he uses a meter in the car and does a short road test. Another thing I noticed last time was that when the guy called up the VOSA details for the MOT cert it stated a warning regarding LSD for the vehicle. Always go to good clued in MOT stations/garages. Regards, Pete

Jhonno

6,430 posts

164 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
quotequote all
As has been said.. LSD means road test. Not many seem to be aware of this!

rigga

8,798 posts

224 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
quotequote all
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Think about it .....this scenario would never happen, I can understand the reason for not trying to hold one wheel whilst the input shaft is being rotated by the engine/gearbox, but on the roller test the gearbox does not drive the rollers, they are done mechanically by the machine itself, even if the car was in gear the clutch would be depressed and no drive would be going to the rear axle.

rigga

8,798 posts

224 months

Thursday 13th June 2013
quotequote all
This is my understanding.of the issue ...When the brakes are tested individually (not the balance test) the wheels are rotated separately and the one not under evaluation is static which would risk damaging the internals of some, if not all, lsds,also it might cause the car to jump out of the rollers when the wheel locks up.

Jhonno

6,430 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th June 2013
quotequote all
anonymous said:
[redacted]
An LSD effectively 'locks' the rear wheels into rotating together.. (Well with some slip). In simple terms, imagined it is locked in the middle, rotate the wheels then apply a force to one wheel only whilst stopping the other rotating any faster.. It can wear the LSD plates or even break it. It could also cause the car to leave the rollers I believe.

cureton

53 posts

188 months

Thursday 13th June 2013
quotequote all
Please excuse my question: Does the Griff normally have a LSD?

carsy

3,019 posts

188 months

Thursday 13th June 2013
quotequote all
cureton said:
Please excuse my question: Does the Griff normally have a LSD?
Yes. A gkn in the early cars and a btr in the rest.