Beaten by a penshioner
Beaten by a penshioner
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tvrdavid

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105 posts

226 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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Just been out-dragged by my 70 year old dad in his BMW 335. Gutted. Just picked up my 450 chim last week after 2 years out of the tvr fold. Still love it though! Ran out of puff about 4200 rpm. ?camshaft worn. It's done 60000 miles.

Pupp

12,976 posts

302 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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Worth checking the intake hose up the inner wing isn't collapsing

tvrdavid

Original Poster:

105 posts

226 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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Cheers. Ill have a look tomorrow. Even more gutted about my spelling of pensioner!

slippery

14,093 posts

269 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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I guess the truth of the matter is, these cars just aren't THAT quick any more. Modern stuff like a 335 can be driven very quickly with very little effort, especially if they are auto. Best to enjoy the sense of occasion as opposed to trying to out drag high powered euro boxes. smile
That being said, it doesn't sound like yours is running right, so you might be able to demand a re-match when sorted! hehe

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

277 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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But 335's are like ar5es - everyone has one.
And they are bland.
FFG

StarmistBlue400

3,088 posts

248 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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FlipFlopGriff said:
But 335's are like ar5es - everyone has one.
And they are bland.
FFG
And they sound ste. I don't care how quick my Chim is. It s how it makes me feel that counts smile

jojackson4

3,049 posts

167 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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Get a 500
Her in doors says her 330 is faster
She is on drugs

Chilliman

12,422 posts

191 months

Saturday 15th June 2013
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If you have a Chimaera that's slower than a BMW diseasil then something is clearly wrong. If it's a chipped up diseasil beemer and you have a 400 then your dilemma is understandable. Although not acceptable. Any German saloon car should not be quicker than a TVR. Just my personal opinion... I can't abide the thought that a TVR is left behind by a German barge. It's just not right.

speedtwelve

3,546 posts

303 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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tvrdavid said:
Ran out of puff about 4200 rpm. ?camshaft worn. It's done 60000 miles.
Mine (rebuilt) revs and pulls freely to the 6250rpm limiter. If your car is running flat beyond 4200rpm+ you may well be right about the camshaft. A BMW 335 should not be outdragging a healthy Chim 450 through the gears unless something is wrong.

pwd95

8,459 posts

268 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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335 petrol will have around 200bhp per tonne so no slouch. A healthy 450 Chim should have around 250bhp per tonne. Your car is seriously f'knackered if you were out dragged by a standard petrol 335. thumbup

chris1972

3,597 posts

167 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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The 335's and 535's are all auto; at least the diesel derivatives are. They are fast cars, especially if remapped. some of the 335i's have been remapped to 390bhp, whilst the 535d's up to 370bhp/730nm (gearbox limits). However, power to weight ratio will nearly always win, so a healthy 450/ 500 should out drag. However, it's as you get 100mph+ the balance changes. Once you get past these speeds, it's either your pride or your license if you're driving in the UK.

I managed to keep up with a new M3 several weeks back. I eventually backed-off as the Chim was getting very light and the road was new to me. I think a lot has to do with what gear you are in.

tvrdavid

Original Poster:

105 posts

226 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Up to about 60ish I had him but beyond is where he pulled away. It was fairly close after but I was suprised by the lack of grunt after 4K. Having said that the car is due a major service. I'll try it again after that! Nontheless it's great to be back in a tvr after 2 years of MGB driving, which although good fun doesnt quite provide the same level of excitement!

Goaty Bill

1,779 posts

181 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Do the decent thing


m4tti

5,488 posts

185 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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You should have gone back to a tuscan. That should have seen the rep mobile off fairly easily whistle

tvrdavid

Original Poster:

105 posts

226 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Ha, true but don't think my bank account could tolerate another speed 6 spanking!!

m4tti

5,488 posts

185 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Good point the "speed six" spanking. Lol

EGB

1,774 posts

187 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Or get a well sorted standard Griff 500. Outsprints Ferrari 430 and Tuscan up to 100mph. See SAGRIFF a skilled sprinter at Brunters. No revs required for take off, just floor it, no wheel spin.

Edited by EGB on Sunday 16th June 12:05

jamienshelly

1,826 posts

168 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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I can see someone falling into the "mods" trap and joining the "MCC" laugh
The thing with those BMW's is they have very little turbo lag so they have loads of torque from low down, then its long gears with fast auto shifting.
But you should be able to keep up till about 70-80 leptons. I have a 400 and upset a carerra 4s
the other day, cos he could not pull away from me, but he stopped at 75 thankfully.
so 4.5 should be more than a match. maybe cam or just a good service is needed.

V8 GRF

7,299 posts

240 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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The lack of guts over 4200 describes exactly what used to happen in my Griffith until I changed the cam.

I'd check for cheaper alternatives for a cure first but with that mileage I'd suggest your first diagnosis is near the mark. You can check by removing the rocker covers and visually checking the lift, on mine it was apparent.

Robert Lees

550 posts

171 months

Sunday 16th June 2013
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Bmw 335i or d are blummin fast! . I would be happy keeping up with one in my 450.