Essex 3.0 electronic ignition distributor
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Hi Guys I have a distributor that came from a 1993 South African essex 3.0 V6 but unfortunatley I dont have the module. I cant seem to find out much about this on the web but it looks to be based on the cologne 2.8 ignition. I have put a couple of pictures up the first is the standard dizzy (right) electronic (left)
the second is the Electronic dizzy inside the cap.
Do you think the 2.8 module will work with this
Chris
the second is the Electronic dizzy inside the cap.
Do you think the 2.8 module will work with this
Chris
more info to try to help ....
The 2.8 dizzy is actually equipped with a tiny pickup coil, and each of those 6 'prongs' have a small magnet on them, which is how the unit gets triggered. That photo does look VERY like the 2.8 dizzy innards. I understand this setup also matches a lot of US V8 ignition systems. If you can test with a small screwdriver and it 'sticks' then probably the 2.8 Duraspark box will work.
About 1983-4 (ish) Hall effect triggers started turning up - on the 2.8 in UK, this coincided with EEC-IV engine management systems. On Hall triggers, the setup looks like a 'U' shape with a metal sheet (with cutouts) running between the U. This is because it works by interrupting a magnetic field. Your photo does look very like the Duraspark design, and NOt the Hall one.
Even the Colognes had two different dizzy setups, Ford Duraspark (Blue cap) and Bosch (Red Cap). The Bosch driver unit was very different appearance to the Duraspark, looking like a small ribbed heatsink almost, but dizzy innards look similar. I've seen these Bosch systems on exported 2.3 Cortinas and V6 german Capris (like the 2.3 and 2.6), and may be on some UK vehicles. I have always seen Ford (blue cap) on the 2.8 Grannys and Tasmins.
The 2.8 dizzy is actually equipped with a tiny pickup coil, and each of those 6 'prongs' have a small magnet on them, which is how the unit gets triggered. That photo does look VERY like the 2.8 dizzy innards. I understand this setup also matches a lot of US V8 ignition systems. If you can test with a small screwdriver and it 'sticks' then probably the 2.8 Duraspark box will work.
About 1983-4 (ish) Hall effect triggers started turning up - on the 2.8 in UK, this coincided with EEC-IV engine management systems. On Hall triggers, the setup looks like a 'U' shape with a metal sheet (with cutouts) running between the U. This is because it works by interrupting a magnetic field. Your photo does look very like the Duraspark design, and NOt the Hall one.
Even the Colognes had two different dizzy setups, Ford Duraspark (Blue cap) and Bosch (Red Cap). The Bosch driver unit was very different appearance to the Duraspark, looking like a small ribbed heatsink almost, but dizzy innards look similar. I've seen these Bosch systems on exported 2.3 Cortinas and V6 german Capris (like the 2.3 and 2.6), and may be on some UK vehicles. I have always seen Ford (blue cap) on the 2.8 Grannys and Tasmins.
Edited by RCK974X on Sunday 16th June 22:23
RCK974X said:
more info to try to help ....
The 2.8 dizzy is actually equipped with a tiny pickup coil, and each of those 6 'prongs' have a small magnet on them, which is how the unit gets triggered. That photo does look VERY like the 2.8 dizzy innards. I understand this setup also matches a lot of US V8 ignition systems. If you can test with a small screwdriver and it 'sticks' then probably the 2.8 Duraspark box will work.
About 1983-4 (ish) Hall effect triggers started turning up - on the 2.8 in UK, this coincided with EEC-IV engine management systems. On Hall triggers, the setup looks like a 'U' shape with a metal sheet (with cutouts) running between the U. This is because it works by interrupting a magnetic field. Your photo does look very like the Duraspark design, and NOt the Hall one.
Even the Colognes had two different dizzy setups, Ford Duraspark (Blue cap) and Bosch (Red Cap). The Bosch driver unit was very different appearance to the Duraspark, looking like a small ribbed heatsink almost, but dizzy innards look similar. I've seen these Bosch systems on exported 2.3 Cortinas and V6 german Capris (like the 2.3 and 2.6), and may be on some UK vehicles. I have always seen Ford (blue cap) on the 2.8 Grannys and Tasmins.
Thanks for the help. It is magnetic so would this be the module I would need http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-CAPRI-2-8-I-LUCAS-D...The 2.8 dizzy is actually equipped with a tiny pickup coil, and each of those 6 'prongs' have a small magnet on them, which is how the unit gets triggered. That photo does look VERY like the 2.8 dizzy innards. I understand this setup also matches a lot of US V8 ignition systems. If you can test with a small screwdriver and it 'sticks' then probably the 2.8 Duraspark box will work.
About 1983-4 (ish) Hall effect triggers started turning up - on the 2.8 in UK, this coincided with EEC-IV engine management systems. On Hall triggers, the setup looks like a 'U' shape with a metal sheet (with cutouts) running between the U. This is because it works by interrupting a magnetic field. Your photo does look very like the Duraspark design, and NOt the Hall one.
Even the Colognes had two different dizzy setups, Ford Duraspark (Blue cap) and Bosch (Red Cap). The Bosch driver unit was very different appearance to the Duraspark, looking like a small ribbed heatsink almost, but dizzy innards look similar. I've seen these Bosch systems on exported 2.3 Cortinas and V6 german Capris (like the 2.3 and 2.6), and may be on some UK vehicles. I have always seen Ford (blue cap) on the 2.8 Grannys and Tasmins.
Edited by RCK974X on Sunday 16th June 22:23
Cheers chris
That looks right, but be aware that that's a LUCAS replacement for an original Ford one. Plugs look right from what I can see.
The Ford originals are about the same size as photo and have FORD, or Motorcraft, cast in them, and a bright blue "DURASPARK, tested tough" label on them, which is probably still there on most boxes, as it's made of some tough plastic
There are wiring diagrams on the web (and pics) with colour code explanations.
The Bosch drivers, by comparison, are a lot smaller, have different plugs I think, and rely on being attached to the steel bodywork as a heat sink, which is probably why all the Tasmins had the Ford one ?
The Ford originals are about the same size as photo and have FORD, or Motorcraft, cast in them, and a bright blue "DURASPARK, tested tough" label on them, which is probably still there on most boxes, as it's made of some tough plastic
There are wiring diagrams on the web (and pics) with colour code explanations.
The Bosch drivers, by comparison, are a lot smaller, have different plugs I think, and rely on being attached to the steel bodywork as a heat sink, which is probably why all the Tasmins had the Ford one ?
I can't say for definite, but I think the Bosch and Motorcraft modules had different plugs/connectors. Please double check though, as I'm not sure.
For photos etc, I think that the Australian and NZ 2.3 export Cortinas (yes, there were some !!) all had Bosch setups. I think the German Capris also, whereas most of the UK Colognes had Motorcraft. Again, not totally sure, that's as far as I know.
Could try posting this on wedge forum too, as I reckon there's more 2.8 dizzy knowledge ?
For photos etc, I think that the Australian and NZ 2.3 export Cortinas (yes, there were some !!) all had Bosch setups. I think the German Capris also, whereas most of the UK Colognes had Motorcraft. Again, not totally sure, that's as far as I know.
Could try posting this on wedge forum too, as I reckon there's more 2.8 dizzy knowledge ?
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