Resident permit holders only or..
Discussion
On Saturday I parked in a parking zone (on the street) signposted as follows:
"Resident permit holders only or Mon - Fri 8am - 6pm 30 mins no return within 1 hour"
Being a Saturday I assumed the 30 minutes restriction did not apply and went off for a couple of hours. On returning to the car I found I had been issued with a ticket with a stated reason of "not displaying a valid permit in a permit holders restricted zone".
Now I wonder does this mean that:
a) The traffic warden was an idiot/b**tard and couldn't/didn't read the sign
or (more likely?)
b) The traffic warden is interpreting the two clauses on the sign not as two restrictions but a restriction and a derestriction?
Assuming (b) this is clearly an attempt at conning motorists out of their cash, so I'd like to fight it. A number of other cars had tickets.
The ticket is a standard £60 or "£30 if you pay it within 14 days" type, presumably in order to pressurize people into paying straight away and not taking the time to fight.
Does anyone have any advice on where I stand legally and how to go about fighting the ticket?
Incidentally, the only other ticket I've ever had was also a real scam - the sign said "2 pounds for 2 hours" in huge lettering, but underneath (as pointed out by traffic warden when I marched them to the sign after they stuck a ticket on my windscreen) in *tiny* print was the note "except Mon-Fri - £1/20 mins". I paid that one as I was busy but I was pretty unimpressed.
"Resident permit holders only or Mon - Fri 8am - 6pm 30 mins no return within 1 hour"
Being a Saturday I assumed the 30 minutes restriction did not apply and went off for a couple of hours. On returning to the car I found I had been issued with a ticket with a stated reason of "not displaying a valid permit in a permit holders restricted zone".
Now I wonder does this mean that:
a) The traffic warden was an idiot/b**tard and couldn't/didn't read the sign
or (more likely?)
b) The traffic warden is interpreting the two clauses on the sign not as two restrictions but a restriction and a derestriction?
Assuming (b) this is clearly an attempt at conning motorists out of their cash, so I'd like to fight it. A number of other cars had tickets.
The ticket is a standard £60 or "£30 if you pay it within 14 days" type, presumably in order to pressurize people into paying straight away and not taking the time to fight.
Does anyone have any advice on where I stand legally and how to go about fighting the ticket?
Incidentally, the only other ticket I've ever had was also a real scam - the sign said "2 pounds for 2 hours" in huge lettering, but underneath (as pointed out by traffic warden when I marched them to the sign after they stuck a ticket on my windscreen) in *tiny* print was the note "except Mon-Fri - £1/20 mins". I paid that one as I was busy but I was pretty unimpressed.
I agree with Quisler.
Think about the logic of a residents' parking zone...
Q: When would the residents need to be able to park at home?
A: Evenings and weekends.
Looks like the restricted parking is relaxed slightly during the day on weekdays as there won't be so much pressure on the parking from residents (who may well drive off to work).
Think about the logic of a residents' parking zone...
Q: When would the residents need to be able to park at home?
A: Evenings and weekends.
Looks like the restricted parking is relaxed slightly during the day on weekdays as there won't be so much pressure on the parking from residents (who may well drive off to work).
Streetcop said:
shift workers? Night workers? Those working from home? etc
Sure. They're still allowed to park using their permits, though.
Most people don't fall into one of these categories, though, as I'm sure you're aware, which is an explanation as to why the zone might be set up in this way
From what people have said on the thread, it does make sense that the parking would be residents-only except for mon-fri during working hours.
I think they're technically wrong, as well as being (deliberately?) unclear. If they'd wanted to be clear they'd have said "Residents only EXCEPT Mon-Fri 9-6..."
Interesting. To link back to the original question, does anyone have any legal advice on how to go about fighting the ticket? If I complain to whom should I address m arguments? The address on the ticket or others? Also, will the 14 day "special offer half-price for paying early" expire thereby making the fine £60 instead of the current £30 or is there some way to ensure it's put on hold until the matter has been resolved?
anonymous said:
[redacted]
I think they're technically wrong, as well as being (deliberately?) unclear. If they'd wanted to be clear they'd have said "Residents only EXCEPT Mon-Fri 9-6..."
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Interesting. To link back to the original question, does anyone have any legal advice on how to go about fighting the ticket? If I complain to whom should I address m arguments? The address on the ticket or others? Also, will the 14 day "special offer half-price for paying early" expire thereby making the fine £60 instead of the current £30 or is there some way to ensure it's put on hold until the matter has been resolved?
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff