Spider 3.2 2005, any advice
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caiss4

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218 months

Thursday 20th June 2013
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So after 4 years of delightful 156 V6 ownership I'm looking for more of a play thing. A low mileage 2005 Spider 3.2V6 is up for grabs. Is there anything I should really look out for? (aside from the usual cambelt/suspension bushes etc). Any comments welcome - indeed, is the 3.2 an engine of choice or is the 3.0 better? In fact, am I mad, should I stick to the 156?

Of course, if the advice is go for it then there'll be a 1998 65k miles saloon with full service history (two owners only) on offer soon!

xyyman

1,093 posts

246 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Having owned two of the 3.2 916 Spider's I can report the following: do check the rear suspension and sub frame for wear. As a precaution I would always poly bush the rear (not the front though) and have a full alignment carried out. If it hasn't already had one then do fit a Q2 diff it'll make a big difference to the handling and traction. The engine is a gem and the last of the truly great Alfa V6's. There is always a fair amount of scuttle shake, particularly on the rough old roads in E Sussex where I am, fitting a good quality strut brace will help. Just get it and enjoy it, I regret moving mine on.

Rythmic slapping

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170 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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xyyman said:
Having owned two of the 3.2 916 Spider's I can report the following: do check the rear suspension and sub frame for wear. As a precaution I would always poly bush the rear (not the front though) and have a full alignment carried out. If it hasn't already had one then do fit a Q2 diff it'll make a big difference to the handling and traction. The engine is a gem and the last of the truly great Alfa V6's. There is always a fair amount of scuttle shake, particularly on the rough old roads in E Sussex where I am, fitting a good quality strut brace will help. Just get it and enjoy it, I regret moving mine on.
The engine is a good enough engine, however its not a great Alfa engine as its a GM unit. The last truly great v6 production was stopped in 2005 - as it failed to meet EU emissions.. which is a shame because it was of the best engines ever made - pulled in every gear and at every revs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_V6_engine

The wife had a v6 Brera and a friend had the 2.2 petrol, interesting the 2.2 drove better in the corners as the 2.2 unit was a lot lighter, but in a straight-line you can tell the difference.

Something to bear in mind.

caiss4

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Sunday 23rd June 2013
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A lex said:
Are we talking about the 916 (GTV) Spider or the 939 (Brera) Spider.

2005 was the crossover year and both came with a 3.2, albeit very very different ones!

Clarification needed OP!
We're talking 916. So it's a Busso engine, not GM!

Rythmic slapping

76 posts

170 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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caiss4 said:
We're talking 916. So it's a Busso engine, not GM!
My bad - thought you were looking at the newer spider.

In which case - yes the engine is a gem..

I havent seen many 2005 916 spiders.

Alfahorn

7,815 posts

229 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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A lex said:
Are we talking about the 916 (GTV) Spider or the 939 (Brera) Spider.

2005 was the crossover year and both came with a 3.2, albeit very very different ones!

Clarification needed OP!
The 939 came to market in 2006.

Alfahorn

7,815 posts

229 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Rythmic slapping said:
caiss4 said:
We're talking 916. So it's a Busso engine, not GM!
My bad - thought you were looking at the newer spider.

In which case - yes the engine is a gem..

I havent seen many 2005 916 spiders.
The did a final edition in late 2004 which had TI wheels, that looked very nice.

xyyman

1,093 posts

246 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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There were a few Final Edition 3.2's still for grabs in 2006. My second was registered new in April 2006 with an '06 plate.

Andy665

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249 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Absolutely no need to polybush the rear end unless the rear end requires an overhaul

My 61k GTV V6 is still on original rear bushes and was given a 100% clean bill of health by an Alfa specialist a few weeks ago

The gearbox is weak and its not uncommon for the diff to explode, often punching a hole in the casing. Q2 is not that popular since they ramped up the prices to the point where Autolusso can supply and fit a Quaife for less money than a Q2

Mine is booked in for a Quaife, single piece flywheel and GTA clutch in a few weeks, not a cheap job but a really good upgrade

A 3.2 Spider is a rare thing indeed, only 39 ever registered in the UK

caiss4

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218 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Well it may be rare and although this one had its appeal the top-end ticking and mixed bag of tyres has put me off (at the price).

Currently looking at an older 3.0 with more miles but the provenance is better (and so is the price!)



Edited by caiss4 on Wednesday 26th June 21:32