Restoring a classic 911 - advice needed
Restoring a classic 911 - advice needed
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Petrolhead95

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7,048 posts

184 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Long story cut short - me and my dad are after a restoration project and I suggested a classic 911. He wasn't too sure when I first mentioned it, but I think he's warming up to the idea. I know I'm jumping in at the deep end for a first project, but I like a challenge.

Before we seriously look into finding the perfect car for us, it would help a lot if we got some advice from people that have had past experience of restoration. I know these questions would depend a lot on the car, but a rough answer would help a lot!

- How much roughly are we looking at to fully restore a run down or bare shell vehicle?

- Are parts difficult to get hold of?

- Where is the best place to find a 911 that is run down/bare?

- Is there anything I should know before starting?

Any advice/help would be appreciated!

BrewsterBear

1,548 posts

222 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Most parts are available, but expensive when compared to restoring, say, an MG. Rust is expensive to sort depending on how good you are with a welder. Figures are difficult to guesstimate as it depends on how involved you want to get, how much time you're willing to spend making old parts good and the level of finish you want to achieve. It could be anywhere from £10k to £100k. Good luck though.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Check out restoration thread on DDK forum.
Everything you need to know and more.

rubystone

11,254 posts

289 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Biggest problem is cost of acquisition. Even lowly T basket cases are fetching between £34 and £49k at auction. I would be surprised if a decent resto on them will be less than £50k done properly. You may be better off buying a 914...

911mick

202 posts

161 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Good choice of resto. Get yourself on www.impactbumpers.com there are plenty of threads on this subject and some very knowledgeable guys.
All the best of luck

BertBert

21,267 posts

241 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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911mick said:
Good choice of resto. Get yourself on www.impactbumpers.com there are plenty of threads on this subject and some very knowledgeable guys.
All the best of luck
No,no he said classic biggrin

mrdemon

21,146 posts

295 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Petrolhead95 said:
Long story cut short - me and my dad are after a restoration project and I suggested a classic 911. He wasn't too sure when I first mentioned it, but I think he's warming up to the idea. I know I'm jumping in at the deep end for a first project, but I like a challenge.

Before we seriously look into finding the perfect car for us, it would help a lot if we got some advice from people that have had past experience of restoration. I know these questions would depend a lot on the car, but a rough answer would help a lot!

- How much roughly are we looking at to fully restore a run down or bare shell vehicle?
upto 80k

- Are parts difficult to get hold of?
yes

- Where is the best place to find a 911 that is run down/bare?
they all seem to fetch to much these days

- Is there anything I should know before starting?
matching numbers are key, don't pick a lower spec car do a S or some thing rare

Any advice/help would be appreciated!

OlberJ

14,101 posts

263 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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rubystone said:
You may be better off buying a 914...
Just a shame they are all LHD really.

914 with late 3.6 running gear is quite choice cloud9

shoestring7

6,193 posts

276 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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rubystone said:
Biggest problem is cost of acquisition. Even lowly T basket cases are fetching between £34 and £49k at auction. I would be surprised if a decent resto on them will be less than £50k done properly. You may be better off buying a 914...
The US is still the place to find reasonably solid restoration projects, and for a lot less than the optimistic prices asked by UK vendors. Importing is easy and more reasonable than you might have heard - 5% tax only on classics.

>SS7

shoestring7

6,193 posts

276 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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mrdemon said:
Petrolhead95 said:
Long story cut short - me and my dad are after a restoration project and I suggested a classic 911. He wasn't too sure when I first mentioned it, but I think he's warming up to the idea. I know I'm jumping in at the deep end for a first project, but I like a challenge.

Before we seriously look into finding the perfect car for us, it would help a lot if we got some advice from people that have had past experience of restoration. I know these questions would depend a lot on the car, but a rough answer would help a lot!

- How much roughly are we looking at to fully restore a run down or bare shell vehicle?
upto 80k

- Are parts difficult to get hold of?
yes

- Where is the best place to find a 911 that is run down/bare?
they all seem to fetch to much these days

- Is there anything I should know before starting?
matching numbers are key, don't pick a lower spec car do a S or some thing rare

Any advice/help would be appreciated!
This week I popped into my local OPC with a list of 20 or so mainly non-service parts that I needed for my '73 911T project. Some were pretty obscure too.

Every single one was still available, although they did apologetically tell me that some would take a couple of days as they have to come from Germany.

SS7

Slippydiff

16,387 posts

253 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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shoestring7 said:
mrdemon said:
Petrolhead95 said:
Long story cut short - me and my dad are after a restoration project and I suggested a classic 911. He wasn't too sure when I first mentioned it, but I think he's warming up to the idea. I know I'm jumping in at the deep end for a first project, but I like a challenge.

Before we seriously look into finding the perfect car for us, it would help a lot if we got some advice from people that have had past experience of restoration. I know these questions would depend a lot on the car, but a rough answer would help a lot!

- How much roughly are we looking at to fully restore a run down or bare shell vehicle?
upto 80k

- Are parts difficult to get hold of?
yes

- Where is the best place to find a 911 that is run down/bare?
they all seem to fetch to much these days

- Is there anything I should know before starting?
matching numbers are key, don't pick a lower spec car do a S or some thing rare

Any advice/help would be appreciated!
This week I popped into my local OPC with a list of 20 or so mainly non-service parts that I needed for my '73 911T project. Some were pretty obscure too.

Every single one was still available, although they did apologetically tell me that some would take a couple of days as they have to come from Germany.

SS7
You're not questioning Mr Demon's opinion on this subject are you ? How many times must you people be told, you MUST respect his views. silly

mrdemon

21,146 posts

295 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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they stock service parts it is when you want to do a build with the correct light finish on old rare cars etc it gets harder

doing a 911 T would imo cost more than it's worth for a proper rebuild, but I guess the T has been dragged up by the E which has been dragged up by the S which has been dragged up by the RS.

the latter ones you can spend the cash and make money the T is a tough call and the bottom of the rung.
but as these were only 10k or less not even 5 years a go it's gone a bit crazy.

again buying a matching numbers car is key.

But what do I know :-p

Petrolhead95

Original Poster:

7,048 posts

184 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Cheers for the comments, guys. Hopefully I don't bankrupt myself from this hehe

shoestring7

6,193 posts

276 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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mrdemon said:
they stock service parts it is when you want to do a build with the correct light finish on old rare cars etc it gets harder

doing a 911 T would imo cost more than it's worth for a proper rebuild, but I guess the T has been dragged up by the E which has been dragged up by the S which has been dragged up by the RS.

the latter ones you can spend the cash and make money the T is a tough call and the bottom of the rung.
but as these were only 10k or less not even 5 years a go it's gone a bit crazy.

again buying a matching numbers car is key.

But what do I know :-p
The economics are different if you're doing much of the work yourself.

I'd look for a mfi T that was as complete and as solid as possible; bodywork on these is complex and can be very expensive to repair.

SS7

robrobc

198 posts

222 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Try here

http://www.mobile.de/?lang=en

All over Europe it seems

HTH

Rob

phib

4,520 posts

289 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Just flying out of the door but ...

I had my 2.7rs restored by Porsche all in it was £87k I did ask how much an s or t would be to restore and it wasn't far off that figure to do it properly

In the end mine was too perfect and to good to use

Will write more later

Phib