Rising rate fpr(power boost valve)
Rising rate fpr(power boost valve)
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wooly350i

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2,248 posts

238 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Has anyone got one of these fitted to replace the standard original? If so does it sound like one of the clangers when you turn on ignition and fuel pump pressurises the line?
I need to think of an answer when people ask WTF was that!

908glen

91 posts

208 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Hi

Mine doesn't make any noise at all and works very well.

Jack Valiant

1,894 posts

266 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Have you got a stepper motor on your set-up? On my 500i I have a hot-wire system and a stepper motor on the plenum when I turn on the ignition the stepper motor re-cycles and opens the air valve? I can hear mine at turn on

Chris

350zwelgje

1,820 posts

291 months

Friday 21st June 2013
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Mine does that after it stood for a couple of weeks or even longer. I wait for the 'wistling' noise to stop before to use the throttle for the pump to be able to build up the pressure. As well watching the oil pressure light and gauge.

The brand I have is the cheapest on the market that has divided opinions. I learned to live with it (know what I want and what I need to do to it...) and have a permanent fuel pressure gauge on it, to monitor or adjust it to my requirements! Track is different to fast road. Perhaps will invest in an improved fuel pressure regulator later, but like the rising rate aspect on my standard 3.5 flapper and yes it does do the improved accelaration trick (checked several times by changing back to the standard regulator, which I carry as a spare - just in case).

Never had funny looks or the need to explain the TVR making funny noises, it makes a lot of noise that either impresses or is hated, but will 'mask' the one under the bonnet at all times.

Rob

Danny Hoffman

1,617 posts

292 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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I've had an FSE one sat in a cupboard for a couple of years, never got round to fitting it.

It came off fleebay but didn't have any fitting instructions, although it seems pretty obvious what needs to be done.

I did have a look on the web but couldn't find any instructions, does anyone have a copy they could scan me?

Seems like a few people aren't too happy with them though....

http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/car-talk/449222-nev...

350zwelgje

1,820 posts

291 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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http://www.v8engines.com/Acrobat/Powerboostvalve.p...

It feels a lot different after fitting (only for the flapper), but getting the pressure right is a bit of trail and error. Have the tools in the dash to adapt on the fly, using the all time attached pressure gauge...., for when I feel like to checking and or adjusting it.

Rob

wooly350i

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2,248 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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350zwelgje said:
http://www.v8engines.com/Acrobat/Powerboostvalve.p...

It feels a lot different after fitting (only for the flapper), but getting the pressure right is a bit of trail and error. Have the tools in the dash to adapt on the fly, using the all time attached pressure gauge...., for when I feel like to checking and or adjusting it.

Rob
Just as a word of warning though mate, they don't recommend leaving the gauge fitted permanently, something to do with safety and petrol, John.

Danny Hoffman

1,617 posts

292 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Thanks Rob, but these are for the hotwore EFi, mine is a flapper. Are the instructions the same?

Wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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wooly350i said:
Just as a word of warning though mate, they don't recommend leaving the gauge fitted permanently, something to do with safety and petrol, John.
I've had a permanently-installed pressure gauge on my car for a few years; what I have noticed is that the gauges don't last very long - I imagine due to the high-frequency pressure pulses caused by the injectors firing. Perhaps a glycerine-damped one would survive longer.

maston

872 posts

182 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Got an fse rising rate one on my 390, excellent biggrin

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Do you need a rising rate regulator on your setup? Does the EcU compensate for fuel inrichment or do you rely on the adjustable fuel regulator"rising rate" to do the job ?

wooly350i

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2,248 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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SILICONEKID343HP said:
Do you need a rising rate regulator on your setup? Does the EcU compensate for fuel inrichment or do you rely on the adjustable fuel regulator"rising rate" to do the job ?
That I will be advised on when I can eventually track down the guy who's going to map it, when I spoke with him briefly a few weeks ago he did query it but Im assuming I can just be over compensated for fuel pressure as the dta system is programmable, still have the original one just incase its got to go back on but the original was only giving fuel rail pressure of just over 2bar with engine running where as the FSE one can go way up from that but at present ive set it at 2.5bar running, obviously the injectors can be adjusted for pulsing time length so fingers crossed he can work some magic on it.

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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wooly350i said:
That I will be advised on when I can eventually track down the guy who's going to map it, when I spoke with him briefly a few weeks ago he did query it but Im assuming I can just be over compensated for fuel pressure as the dta system is programmable, still have the original one just incase its got to go back on but the original was only giving fuel rail pressure of just over 2bar with engine running where as the FSE one can go way up from that but at present ive set it at 2.5bar running, obviously the injectors can be adjusted for pulsing time length so fingers crossed he can work some magic on it.
You won`t need a rising rate regulator ,just the adjustable 1:1 linea ..If it has a thin band like this it will be 1;1 which you need .

The rising rate ones have thicker bands.


wooly350i

Original Poster:

2,248 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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SILICONEKID343HP said:
You won`t need a rising rate regulator ,just the adjustable 1:1 linea ..If it has a thin band like this it will be 1;1 which you need .

The rising rate ones have thicker bands.

Yes its the thicker band one, you say I wont need the rising rate one but I wonder if its just overkill and could it be used anyway? John

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

254 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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I have the adjustable model from Webcon because I had read the bad reviews of the FSE's.:

http://www.webcon.co.uk/Downloads/WFR1.pdf

Phil
420 SEAc

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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wooly350i said:
Yes its the thicker band one, you say I wont need the rising rate one but I wonder if its just overkill and could it be used anyway? John
Rising rate will throw the map out ,think they were designed for engine managment systems without fuel enrichment so the regulater did the job .

AM400

1,196 posts

293 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Ditched my FSE one for a Webber adjustable.

Wedg1e

27,038 posts

295 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Mine has the original adjustable (but non-rising rate) Bosch(?) one... seems to work OK, dyno air:fuel ratio graph flatter than a contour map of Lincolnshire... biggrin

SILICONEKID343HP

14,997 posts

261 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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I was recommended the Maplassi from a guy at V8D,they look like the FSE but far better quality

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Product.do?method=vi...


blitzracing

6,422 posts

250 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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SILICONEKID343HP said:
Rising rate will throw the map out ,think they were designed for engine managment systems without fuel enrichment so the regulater did the job .
Be careful on this one- only the 14CUX ECU has automatic fuel enrichment, the earlier 14CU, 13CU and 4CU can be used with rising rate regulators to good effect.