Bedford in the wet
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Bradders901

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225 posts

154 months

Saturday 22nd June 2013
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Hi - I have done Bedford a couple of times, both dry (lucky me). Anyone done it in the wet, is it still fun because I have read in Evo it is like ice when it's wet?

dm46

377 posts

167 months

Saturday 22nd June 2013
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It's still good in the wet but depends what tyres/set up you have. You just have to drive to the conditions.

slodge

513 posts

185 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Have done it 3 times in the wet. It's fun! There is only one corner to worry about IMO and that is the long 180 corner before the long main straight as it is like driving on ice when wet and the tyre wall is close to right hand edge of the tarmac.

Aside from that it's all gravy.

Cheers

Slodge

HustleRussell

26,116 posts

183 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Of course it'll still be fun! A different kind of fun... A challenge in smoothness and line-finding.

phazed

22,453 posts

227 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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It was wet all day earlier this year and I loved it.

It teaches you real control like no other.

Flat out down the straights, squeeze the brakes as hard as you dare, the rears lock a little with weight transfer and the fronts skip on the wet track, absolutely brilliant!

Most tracks are slippery when wet. That fine Tarmac isn't like the road or airfields that use a courser aggregate in the Tarmac.

Combe is another slippery one.

Just build your speed and aim to drive really smooth taking up the whole track to maximise grip.

shim

2,051 posts

231 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Bedford is ok in the wet.

Te west circuit bit can be a bit dicey due to the rubber from the slicks they run there but otherwise it's a grippy circuit, Tarmac is very god condition and you can easil get heat into decent tyres.

m3jappa

6,885 posts

241 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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I was there when phased was and I think we all had a great time.

Lots of sideways hehe

http://youtu.be/m_YAv1bqTJY

terenceb

1,488 posts

194 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Learn to drive smoothly in the wet,you'll be quicker in the dry.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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I managed to spin my Boxster S in the wet up there - lack of confidence caused me to lift mid corner.

Only did it the once - it was fun after that, even with the brown trousers wink

Sonic

4,008 posts

230 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Bradders901 said:
Hi - I have done Bedford a couple of times, both dry (lucky me). Anyone done it in the wet, is it still fun because I have read in Evo it is like ice when it's wet?
The best fun i had was in the wet smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T81rLWTDj4

paulmnz

475 posts

197 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Here's a video of me from a few years back in a racing MX5 running a dry setup in the rain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhREC37eK0

The FWD cars where going considerably faster out of the corners, but I suspect I was having more fun.

There are a couple of corners to watch for - the sweeping left after the first chicane (see 4:20 when I pass the prelude and get very sideways) as the surface changes with a bump which unsettles the car.

The other is the final corner onto the start/finish line which is also very slippery and quite highspeed, a puddle usually forms near the apex which will pull the car if it has been raining enough - you'll note the row of cones there to avoid people cutting in to close as the 'pit wall' is one of the few 'hard' things to hit at bedford (along with the wall along the back straight.

Watch for standing water on the back straight particularly on the left before the chicane in the middle

The complex down near the big man-made hill is always slippery, but reasonably consistant

Still, a good fun circuit to drive in the rain if your sensible...




lear

393 posts

230 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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slodge said:
Have done it 3 times in the wet. It's fun! There is only one corner to worry about IMO and that is the long 180 corner before the long main straight as it is like driving on ice when wet and the tyre wall is close to right hand edge of the tarmac.
Definitely this! Have seen two go into the wall there in the wet and have come very close myself - always caused by putting power on too early when you see the straight ahead. Otherwise it's all good fun and fairly benign.

S1Exige224

4 posts

153 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Sideways action.... This is sideways action!


https://vimeo.com/55731008

braddo

12,048 posts

211 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Bedford has to be one of the best places in the country to have a wet track day.

If you have a car with ESP it's a great way to experience how clever these systems can be at keeping the car pointing the right way (the kind of situation where you would be bricking it if it happened on the road).

I had a day there in my C43 in changeable conditions and the way you could chuck it in to certain corners, feel the ESP dab the brakes on individual wheels and cut a bit of power to avoid a certain spin was fascinating. On the other hand, it's the kind of track where you can turn the systems off and have a play on certain corners.


Zumbruk

7,848 posts

283 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Having just got back from the EVO evening track session there, in the slashing rain, I can confidently assert that some of it is slippery, some of it is very slippery and some of it is like greased blancmange. And as someone rightly said, the complex before the main straight is unbelievably slippery. I span there virtually every lap (yes, I am a slow learner).

Edited by Zumbruk on Saturday 29th June 08:53

Benja_Exige

195 posts

281 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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Zumbruk said:
Having just got back from the EVO evening track session there, in the slashing rain, I can confidently assert that some of it is slippery, some of it is very slippery and some of it is like greased blancmange. And as someone rightly said, the complex before the main straight is unbelievably slippery. I span there virtually every lap (yes, I am a slow learner).
I was there too in the Black and White Exige and it was properly slippery. I'll post up some vid from this evening when I get a mo...

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

283 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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Benja_Exige said:
Zumbruk said:
Having just got back from the EVO evening track session there, in the slashing rain, I can confidently assert that some of it is slippery, some of it is very slippery and some of it is like greased blancmange. And as someone rightly said, the complex before the main straight is unbelievably slippery. I span there virtually every lap (yes, I am a slow learner).
I was there too in the Black and White Exige and it was properly slippery. I'll post up some vid from this evening when I get a mo...
Kewl, look forward to seeing that.

(I was in the blue & yellow Westfield, spinning quite a lot.)

phazed

22,453 posts

227 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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I'm back this Monday,( 4 places left) and again on the 15th.

Full circuit, (thumbs up!) smile

gashead1105

623 posts

176 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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phazed said:
I'm back this Monday,( 4 places left) and again on the 15th.

Full circuit, (thumbs up!) smile
In the Tvr? I will be there Monday in a blue and white exige...

kazino

1,583 posts

241 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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I was there too in the yellow elise. I think everyone spun out at least once yesterday, was great to practise controlling the inevitable slides and feeling like a hero although ran out of talent a few times.
Benja Exige, your car was epic, spitting out flames. Zumbruk was great watching you control that Caterham, I've heard they are a nightmare in the wet.