Had so much bad luck with my 996 :(
Had so much bad luck with my 996 :(
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SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Just though i would share my real BAD LUCK!!!

I brought my Porsche 911 (996) in feb with full service history, was so chuffed as this is my first smile It was on 103k and was so tidy. Got a major service done by AW motorsports in southbourne (Porsche specialist) at cost of £900.
Due to work never got to drive her much, but aimed to go Breakfast club at Goodwood, which was great. On driving home (and im not heavy footed) got a loud rattle from engine...... stopped instantly and had her recovered!!! got the horrid call to say "IMS had failed frown so im now on the hunt for a new engine, or rebuild specialist....

so any links, numbers, or help would be helpful.

Ive done 400 miles in her since i brought it...... gutted! but i will not scrap her, or sell for repairs.

Also my Sat nav system has the common "cant read disc" error, so want to replace the system, any got recommendations on what to fit, still want sat nav tho.


BillTheButcher

393 posts

190 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Gutted. frown

I had all kinds of problems with my 996 Carrera in the few months that I owned it but nothing as serious as IMS failure.

SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Yep the worst luck in the world.....! but i wont give up on her.

PawnSacrifice

101 posts

188 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Awful luck. Gutted for you.

Given your part of the world, have a word with Autofram ref the rebuild, to do the whole thing. Otherwise, if you're happy with AW, they can send the engine away for a rebuild - Autofarm / Hartech would be my first call. I did read on Hartech's site that they were going to be doing exchange engines at some point. Both of these are recognised specialists for engine rebuilds and upgrades.

JMG Porsche are probably worth a shout, really skilled / helpful bunch. The only lot I've dealt with (not for a 996).

Good luck.

ADD: sorry you wanted links...
www.autofarm.co.uk
www.hartech.org.uk
www.jmgporsche.co.uk

Edited by PawnSacrifice on Sunday 23 June 17:03

SpArKy911

Original Poster:

243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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PawnSacrifice said:
Awful luck. Gutted for you.

Given your part of the world, have a word with Autofram ref the rebuild, to do the whole thing. Otherwise, if you're happy with AW, they can send the engine away for a rebuild - Autofarm / Hartech would be my first call. I did read on Hartech's site that they were going to be doing exchange engines at some point. Both of these are recognised specialists for engine rebuilds and upgrades.

JMG Porsche are probably worth a shout, really skilled / helpful bunch. The only lot I've dealt with (not for a 996).

Good luck.
Thanks ive had a few people advise Hartech, and been reading a bit on this about them, so ill give them a call tomorrow.

dreading it tho... frown

Martian O

2,734 posts

191 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Hartech is the place to go, hope it gets sorted for you.

Have you tried a CD/DVD cleaner disc in the reader unit?

SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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yep tried that, actually just reading up on it now, if the cars been stood for a while, which it has, this error is common, but once used goes away eventually.... so ill wait and see.

Hartech def look like the place, im budgeting 5k for the rebuild but im reading they can be more then that.... but theres a lot to do whilst apart to stop other issues so may just do the lot and be safe.

TROOPER88

1,788 posts

208 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Is it not rare for the IMS to cause problems at this mileage?

I may be wrong but in the cases I have read about it seems more of a problem between 20 and 60,000 miles.

SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Yep think its just plain bad luck, doubt even the seller new it was going to go.... its just one i have to take on the chin. want to do lE mans next year so want to know im not going to have to worry about breaking down all time...

Shurv

1,024 posts

189 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Get hartech to do all that's required to future proof your car,you can then enjoy it for a very long time.Even with the bill for the engine rebuild, it'll still work out at good value for the great car that you'll have.

SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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mollytherocker

14,465 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Gutted for you fella, sometimes life throws you a st ball.

Best to get past the acceptance phase and start planning. If you get it upgraded properly at a specialist like Hartech, you will have a car with a fresh engine that should prove reliable for years to come. It will also add some value to the car, which will at least offset some of the pain.

Good luck.

mikeyr

3,395 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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that's rubbish to hear mate, my car has a new engine from Porsche at fifty k and a hartech rebuild at eighty five k. got to remember how great it is on the road mate, keep your chin up!

SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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Right quick update so far....

Price from Hartech.

Engine complete strip, assess, clean & prepare for re-build, re-assemble with all new gaskets/seals (except valve stem oil seals at this stage), strip and clean ancillaries as far as possible in case of debris, re-fit ancillaries, re-fit to car, get running with new fluids & test etc of £3500 plus VAT


Typical options are:

1 New cylinder £600 + VAT

New timing chain set - £222 + VAT

New crank shaft bearing set - £120 + VAT

Overhaul heads (strip, de-coke head & valves, re-lap valves, skim heads & re-assemble with new valve stem oil seals) - £300 + VAT

Re-round cylinders & fit support rings - £80 + VAT per cylinder

Used IMS shaft with new modified bearing kit - £500 + VAT

New piston - £325 + VAT

Been told to budget for 5k plus vat!!

Hope they take credit cards ha!!! bangheadsmile

SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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mikeyr said:
that's rubbish to hear mate, my car has a new engine from Porsche at fifty k and a hartech rebuild at eighty five k. got to remember how great it is on the road mate, keep your chin up!
How much did you hand over for the rebuild.. ? did you also get some kind of warranty?
The up side is she should run so smooth when done.

SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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mollytherocker said:
Gutted for you fella, sometimes life throws you a st ball.

Best to get past the acceptance phase and start planning. If you get it upgraded properly at a specialist like Hartech, you will have a car with a fresh engine that should prove reliable for years to come. It will also add some value to the car, which will at least offset some of the pain.

Good luck.
yep this is one expensive st ball! but now ive got prices im just going to go for it.

just got to try and get in from Portsmouth to Bolton..... so i'm now on the search for recovery type

mikeyr

3,395 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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SpArKy911 said:
How much did you hand over for the rebuild.. ? did you also get some kind of warranty?
The up side is she should run so smooth when done.
Both done before I got the car - a previous owner paid 17.5k for Porsche to fit a new one, later rebuild was by hartech who I believe warranty their work (I think) and was about 6k

SpArKy911

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243 posts

159 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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On route to be repaired.... now for the bill hurl

Stokepotter

26 posts

166 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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Wow, bad news mate, just had a leaking IMS seal diagnosed on mine which means it makes sense to have clutch replaced at same time, she's done 81k and I thought like others have said that its generally thought that if you get to that mileage and beyond you have "one of the good ones."
Anyway, I had already made the decision before reading your thread to have the IMS bearing replaced with an upgraded one, I have dropped it off today at Sport & Classic in Knutsford who are also replacing the RMS.
My eyes watered when I was quoted £1800 inc VAT but compared to the bill you are facing I am more then happy to proceed as I feel as well as giving me the confidence that I should never hear the dreaded sound form the engine it will also add value at sell on time so It's a no brainer really.

SpArKy911

Original Poster:

243 posts

159 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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Stokepotter said:
Wow, bad news mate, just had a leaking IMS seal diagnosed on mine which means it makes sense to have clutch replaced at same time, she's done 81k and I thought like others have said that its generally thought that if you get to that mileage and beyond you have "one of the good ones."
Anyway, I had already made the decision before reading your thread to have the IMS bearing replaced with an upgraded one, I have dropped it off today at Sport & Classic in Knutsford who are also replacing the RMS.
My eyes watered when I was quoted £1800 inc VAT but compared to the bill you are facing I am more then happy to proceed as I feel as well as giving me the confidence that I should never hear the dreaded sound form the engine it will also add value at sell on time so It's a no brainer really.
Sorry to hear that mate, ims in a crappy failure frown but your doing the write thing, if you can budget it, then get what you can done at the same time. Keep us updated, always nice to know people are willing to keep these amazing machines rolling.

goodluck pal
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