A330 engine bork at Manchester
A330 engine bork at Manchester
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hidetheelephants

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35,702 posts

222 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Someone sent me this youtube link

edit to add Manchester Evening News link; Thomas Cook A330 suffers engine failure after starting a take-off run. Cool video.

Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 25th June 15:32

horza

491 posts

236 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Impressive. The jockey was on the opposite lock pretty quickly.

MonkeyBusiness

4,240 posts

216 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Who is 'Simon Lowe'?
I thought I recognised the name. He posted the video of the Thompson bird strike some years ago.

DoctorX

8,209 posts

196 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Amazing how cool and calm the pilot sounds, I'd have shat my pants.

DoctorX

8,209 posts

196 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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MonkeyBusiness said:
Who is 'Simon Lowe'?
I thought I recognised the name. He posted the video of the Thompson bird strike some years ago.
Never get on a plane when he's in the vicinity.....

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

227 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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He handled that rather nicely, top work.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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DoctorX said:
MonkeyBusiness said:
Who is 'Simon Lowe'?
I thought I recognised the name. He posted the video of the Thompson bird strike some years ago.
Never get on a plane when he's in the vicinity.....
He's the grim reaper.

As you burst into flames on the runway in Manchester, he'll be there recording it all with his HD video and airband radio. Just itching to download it onto youtube. hehe

HoHoHo

15,398 posts

279 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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I bloody hate the A330 and if they all die I won't miss them.

Great looking aircraft but having just suffered a return trip to Sharm on a Monarch A330 they are so stty inside it's taking the piss.

I can't remember ever having to sit in such small uncomfortable seats with the chair in front so close when you breath it moves rolleyes

chilistrucker

4,543 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Just flew out go sharm on a monarch plane, but with extra leg room so it was fine.
Came back on a smaller thomas cook plane, which was a joke, at 6ft 1 the 5 hour journey was crap. From now on, I won't fly over 2 hours unless I can pay to get the extra legroom.


So, as I havn't got a clue, what are the, "what ifs?"
If the plane had got airborne, and this had happened during the climb, would it have been possible to fly on 1 engine and return to make a SAFE landing?

Also if the plane was at cruising altitude, and this happened, what would happen next? I havn't got a clue, so would be interested to know, thanks.

IroningMan

10,598 posts

275 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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HoHoHo said:
I bloody hate the A330 and if they all die I won't miss them.

Great looking aircraft but having just suffered a return trip to Sharm on a Monarch A330 they are so stty inside it's taking the piss.

I can't remember ever having to sit in such small uncomfortable seats with the chair in front so close when you breath it moves rolleyes
I was on a SleazyJet A319(I think) the other day: fitted with what appeared to be ultra-thin seats made by Recaro. The amount of extra room they provided was remarkable.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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chilistrucker said:
So, as I havn't got a clue, what are the, "what ifs?"
If the plane had got airborne, and this had happened during the climb, would it have been possible to fly on 1 engine and return to make a SAFE landing?

Also if the plane was at cruising altitude, and this happened, what would happen next? I havn't got a clue, so would be interested to know, thanks.
On take off you'd hear a bang and feel a swing and you'd climb away happily, shut down the broken engine and come back for a single engined landing no problems.

In the cruise, you's just descend nice and gradually to a lower altitude where you could sustain single engined flight like 25,000 or so and possibly divert to a closer airport than your destination.

It's only a drama if you have a fire that won't go out, then the pilots might get it back down to a runway in a more expeditious manner.

chilistrucker

4,543 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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el stovey said:
chilistrucker said:
So, as I havn't got a clue, what are the, "what ifs?"
If the plane had got airborne, and this had happened during the climb, would it have been possible to fly on 1 engine and return to make a SAFE landing?

Also if the plane was at cruising altitude, and this happened, what would happen next? I havn't got a clue, so would be interested to know, thanks.
On take off you'd hear a bang and feel a swing and you'd climb away happily, shut down the broken engine and come back for a single engined landing no problems.

In the cruise, you's just descend nice and gradually to a lower altitude where you could sustain single engined flight like 25,000 or so and possibly divert to a closer airport than your destination.

It's only a drama if you have a fire that won't go out, then the pilots might get it back down to a runway in a more expeditious manner.
Thanks, nice to know if 1 goes pop, you'd be ok on the other.
I'm sure I'd still fill my pants though after the initial bang!

Perik Omo

2,325 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Seems to be a bit of an unlucky aircraft, it's had four problems all with the right hand engine in the last eight months:

G-OMYT - Oct 26 - engine shut down in flight over the Atlantic
G-OMYT - Nov 9 - engine malfunction
G-OMYT - Nov 17 - engine shut down in flight
G-OMYT - Jun 24 - engine malfunction and take-off abandoned at Manchester airport.

Edited by Perik Omo on Tuesday 25th June 18:53

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Nice reactions - but that's training for you. Had it happened after V1 it might have been a bit messier.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Perik Omo said:
Seems to be a bit of an unlucky aircraft, it's had four problems all with the right hand engine in the last eight months:

G-OMYT - Oct 26 - engine shut down in flight over the Atlantic
G-OMYT - Nov 9 - engine malfunction
G-OYMT - Nov 17 - engine shut down in flight
G-OYMT - Jun 24 - engine malfunction and take-off abandoned at Manchester airport.
Do you mean the A330 is unlucky because you've shown events on two different aircraft?

Perik Omo

2,325 posts

177 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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el stovey said:
Do you mean the A330 is unlucky because you've shown events on two different aircraft?
Nope, sorry my typing error!!! All should be G-OMYT

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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At first I thought bloody hell those fire tenders were on scene but it's a cut and shut video.

I know they're only a couple of hundred yards from the runway but I wonder how long it takes them to get from the layzeeboy to scene?

That China airlines that blew on the runway recently was empty before they rocked up apart from the one guy with a car fire extinguisher biglaugh.

In a previous role as soon as an airport emergency was called we headed to standby points to shut motorway junctions etc

surveyor

18,689 posts

213 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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HoHoHo said:
I bloody hate the A330 and if they all die I won't miss them.

Great looking aircraft but having just suffered a return trip to Sharm on a Monarch A330 they are so stty inside it's taking the piss.

I can't remember ever having to sit in such small uncomfortable seats with the chair in front so close when you breath it moves rolleyes
Blame the operator, not the manufacturer. I've been in a similar 767 that was just dire on a medium haul route.

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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A lex said:
Simpo Two said:
Nice reactions - but that's training for you. Had it happened after V1 it might have been a bit messier.
Not really, because if it happens after V1 you are taking off, unless the aircraft has a SIGNIFICANT structural failure that would prevent flight. One engine US/on fire is not one of those scenarios.
So you'd just climb out on one engine, then circuit and land again? I suppose it depends on the aircraft; many pilots have died trying to regain the airfield.

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Righty-dokey skip!