Drug and alcohol question
Drug and alcohol question
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bernhund

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3,798 posts

222 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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My daughter's boyfriend was on the lash tonight and put plenty of vodka away, however he didn't drink anymore than he has in the past when he has ended up pi$$ed but not paralytic. The usual 18yr old, drink a bit too much scenario really. However, this night before he went home a friend gave him some chewing gum and told him to take really deep breaths with it. Now we're sat here thinking 'what an idiot taking it' but, I think under the influence etc, this is probably easily done. The chewing gum was supposed to be a 'breathe easy' type thing. However, an hour later he's having convulsions, his hands go blue and he can't feel his arms. No sickness, but his head feels like lead. The paramedics have been and are quite aware they're dealing with an 18 yr old who's had a drink but have taken him to hospital and we're yet to find out what's wrong.
Anyone come across a situation where someone's been giving some kind of drug in chewing gum? We're trying to find out what has happened and I'm well out of touch with the drug scene and what goes around.

Jamirecluse

465 posts

180 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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I'm glad I wasn't the usual 18 year old! Square and proud.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Could well have been cocaine.

He is a muppet to take something he must have known at the time was "wrong".

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

281 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Jamirecluse said:
I'm glad I wasn't the usual 18 year old! Square and proud.
this.

never in my life have I been drunk enough to a) not remember the previous night b) not be able to look after myself

mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Hark at you 2!

OP, I have not heard of chewing gum laced with drugs. It could just be alcohol poisoning? Or a reaction to the menthol in the gum? I'm not quite sure.

Going blue and head feeling like lead does not sound like cocaine.

However, taking deep breaths with menthol gum and being already smashed will probably make you feel sick!

Or he's knowingly taken drugs earlier that night or someone dropped something in his drink.

You can only speculate at the moment.

evo4a

737 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Tiggsy said:
this.

never in my life have I been drunk enough to a) not remember the previous night b) not be able to look after myself
I was the opposite,from 1980 to 1999 I can hardly remember bugger all, I did not look after myself.

In hind sight your option is best by a long way.....

Slink

2,947 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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the chewing gum bit and 'breathe deeply' is a bit strange, might just have been a menthol one (or like).

but there are not any drugs out there you chew and then breathe in to get a hit, the only ones i know off that you breathe in with are ones in a joint/bong/vaporiser or any other thing that you have to light and the smoke.

might be alcohol poisoning, or someone might have slipped something into his drink, but i really cannot see the connection between the chewing gum and convulsions, unless the person giving the chewing gum somehow got a load of drugs, dissolved them in water, then reduced them and coated the gum in it, but i would say thats quite unlikely.

so as (i think it was) muon said, its just speculation until you get a report back from the medics, as im sure they will be running quite a few tests on the lad.

burwoodman

18,718 posts

275 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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As a father myself I would be seriously working ut a way to rid my daughter of said boyfriend.

bernhund

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3,798 posts

222 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Well after various tests at the hospital nothing has been found & they're wondering whether he could be prone to seizures of sorts. Looks like the gum his friend gave him was just gum and was a red herring in the events. So no drugs at all & perhaps a reaction to the vodka. Everyone is baffled and he is very embarrassed by the event. He's a good kid who has just finished his A levels and out to celebrate the fact..I'd be concerned if my daughter was dating someone who didn't want to do that.

s p a c e m a n

12,039 posts

177 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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I would be very surprised if he is not either lying or was spiked. The chances of him having consumed weird deep breathing druggie chewing gum are rizla thin, the silver ones that fall apart if you have a tongue like a dog biggrin

Regiment

2,799 posts

188 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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bernhund said:
Well after various tests at the hospital nothing has been found & they're wondering whether he could be prone to seizures of sorts. Looks like the gum his friend gave him was just gum and was a red herring in the events. So no drugs at all & perhaps a reaction to the vodka. Everyone is baffled and he is very embarrassed by the event. He's a good kid who has just finished his A levels and out to celebrate the fact..I'd be concerned if my daughter was dating someone who didn't want to do that.
Seems odd to say you'd rather your daughter date someone who liked drinking than someone who didn't? If the worst came to the worst, can you look this guy in the face and know he'll a)be capable of looking after your daughter if a situation happened on a night out, b) be willing to look after your daughter if a situation happened.

GALLARDOGUY

8,160 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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JumboBeef said:
Could well have been cocaine.

He is a muppet to take something he must have known at the time was "wrong".
Cocaine chewing gum???

rofl

bernhund

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3,798 posts

222 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Regiment said:
bernhund said:
Well after various tests at the hospital nothing has been found & they're wondering whether he could be prone to seizures of sorts. Looks like the gum his friend gave him was just gum and was a red herring in the events. So no drugs at all & perhaps a reaction to the vodka. Everyone is baffled and he is very embarrassed by the event. He's a good kid who has just finished his A levels and out to celebrate the fact..I'd be concerned if my daughter was dating someone who didn't want to do that.
Seems odd to say you'd rather your daughter date someone who liked drinking than someone who didn't? If the worst came to the worst, can you look this guy in the face and know he'll a)be capable of looking after your daughter if a situation happened on a night out, b) be willing to look after your daughter if a situation happened.
It's likely his drink was either spiked or something didn't agree with him. I've only mentioned he got drunk and you've written him off as a loose canon! They've dated for 6 months and this is a one off occurrence so why should I think badly of him? I assumed by posting here that I'd get real people with some life experience comparing what happened to events they've either experienced, witnessed or heard of before not holier than though massive assumptions.
End of topic I think.

GALLARDOGUY

8,160 posts

248 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Regiment said:
bernhund said:
Well after various tests at the hospital nothing has been found & they're wondering whether he could be prone to seizures of sorts. Looks like the gum his friend gave him was just gum and was a red herring in the events. So no drugs at all & perhaps a reaction to the vodka. Everyone is baffled and he is very embarrassed by the event. He's a good kid who has just finished his A levels and out to celebrate the fact..I'd be concerned if my daughter was dating someone who didn't want to do that.
Seems odd to say you'd rather your daughter date someone who liked drinking than someone who didn't? If the worst came to the worst, can you look this guy in the face and know he'll a)be capable of looking after your daughter if a situation happened on a night out, b) be willing to look after your daughter if a situation happened.
rolleyes

Slink

2,947 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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GALLARDOGUY said:
JumboBeef said:
Could well have been cocaine.

He is a muppet to take something he must have known at the time was "wrong".
Cocaine chewing gum???

rofl
rofl indeed.

if he was gurning like a champ, and couldnt stop talking, he might have had some, but not in chewing gum form.

Craphouserat

1,541 posts

230 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Cocaine chewing gum...what next muffins laced with hash???

Slink

2,947 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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ah yes, but those are well known to work, but coke chewing gum, is a bit 'out there' in terms of production, cost, effectiveness (or so i would think)

your mouth and tongue would go numb and make it v hard to talk, and if done enough your tongue would fall out and teeth fall out, aswell as it would be absolutely foul tasting gum.

the cost would be really quite high, and it wouldnt be worth all the hard work and cost and time spend making it for such a small dose.


no I have not done this before btw, just actually thinking of how it would be done, it would be pretty complicated to get a hit of coke decent enough to do anything compared to doing a line.

pad58

12,549 posts

210 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Just watching "Emmerdale" soap on the telly (don't ask),the little girl on there had just drank some dodgy vodka and was subsequently taken to hospital.
Just a theory , but was this normal vodka or cheapo?

bernhund

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3,798 posts

222 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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pad58 said:
Just watching "Emmerdale" soap on the telly (don't ask),the little girl on there had just drank some dodgy vodka and was subsequently taken to hospital.
Just a theory , but was this normal vodka or cheapo?
Interesting point..I think it was a well known brand to be honest, but can't be certain right now. I'll ask him when I see him next. You'd like to think 'soap opera' or not, they must be realistic to a point!

s p a c e m a n

12,039 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Dont suppose it was a brand named glens was it?