Wife refused day off to attend hospital with me for op.
Wife refused day off to attend hospital with me for op.
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TonyRPH

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13,538 posts

197 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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I need to undergo a minor routine which requires general anesthetic.

The hospital has advised that I need to be driven home and have somebody in attendance for up to 24 hours afterward.

However, my wife has been refused a day off on the grounds that holiday is frozen due to training.

Sure, I can reschedule the op that's no problem*, but I'm wondering if it's legal for her company to do this?

Although I am suffering pain and discomfort from time to time, so it is prolonging the issue.

I don't have anyone else to rely on for this.

FiF

48,680 posts

280 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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It depends somewhat upon your wife's position in her job, e.g. is she still probationary, or how secure is she in her position.

If all reasonably OK, her employer should have a grievance procedure. At least it's a formal way of registering the she and you are unhappy with the decision, but at least it allows her to present her case and it will be recorded.

Now to light the PH touchpaper. You postpone your operation, suffer the pain and discomfort, mental anguish, a bit of whiplash thrown in, then afterwards unleash the no win no fee lawyers. Stands well back.

Don't do anything mentioned in the last paragraph, I'm just stirring.

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,538 posts

197 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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FiF said:
It depends somewhat upon your wife's position in her job, e.g. is she still probationary, or how secure is she in her position.
She's been there for seven years, and is quite secure, and a respected member of staff.

FiF said:
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Don't do anything mentioned in the last paragraph, I'm just stirring.
rofl

AndrewEH1

4,922 posts

182 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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ash73 said:
Rather than making a fuss just tell them no problem we've rescheduled, but when the day comes she takes the day off "sick". Path of least resistance?
That opens her up to a disciplinary for gross misconduct, well it would where I work, as it would be totally obvious!

R0G

5,035 posts

184 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Lesson learned for next time = keep quiet and go sick

omgus

7,305 posts

204 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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I can refuse my staff time off (dependant leave) to take their children to hospital for pre-booked appointments (i don't, but i can) so you wifes work will be able to say no to holiday, but she might be able to take unpaid leave due to the hassle of you needing to re-book.

Getting paid time off on holiday during a freeze can cause many issues, but getting a day as unpaid leave is often much easier, it might be worth going back to her HR with that solution.

TwistingMyMelon

6,506 posts

234 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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How much notice did your Wife give for the day off?

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,538 posts

197 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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TwistingMyMelon said:
How much notice did your Wife give for the day off?
Two weeks.

TwistingMyMelon

6,506 posts

234 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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TonyRPH said:
TwistingMyMelon said:
How much notice did your Wife give for the day off?
Two weeks.
Its pretty poor form from her company on the basis she is a valued long term member of staff with a genuine issue, you would think they would compromise.

We sometimes get holiday requests on v busy weeks asking if they can have the day after next off to go shopping!


herewego

8,814 posts

242 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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You don't need her nagging at you in hospital and you'll probably be there all day anyway so just call her when you're ready to be collected, she'll probably be home making tea by then.

Dphillip67

222 posts

159 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Its pretty poor form from her company on the basis she is a valued long term member of staff with a genuine issue, you would think they would compromise.

We sometimes get holiday requests on v busy weeks asking if they can have the day after next off to go shopping!
Amazed people state reason for holiday

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,538 posts

197 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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herewego said:
You don't need her nagging at you in hospital and you'll probably be there all day anyway so just call her when you're ready to be collected, she'll probably be home making tea by then.
lol she's not like that - I always welcome her company.


dingg

4,536 posts

248 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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The problem is she has asked for time off rather than stating 'I shall be off next thursday due to hospital appointment'

D4MJT

1,308 posts

187 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Does she have a hot sister you could take instead?

Problem solved, my work here is done.

lestershaw

1,591 posts

187 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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as far as im aware you have to give twice as much notice as time you want off when REQUESTING leave. The company must then let you know yes or no at least with same amount of notice as time you are having off. sorry that has confused me. if you want 1 week off you must give them at least 2 weeks notice but they must give you at least 1 weeks notice on their answer. i am not sure what happens on compassionate grounds, and at what level it can be called compassionate?
This i believe is for the company to manage holiday times effectively, and if i am correct i think they do not have to actually pay you your holiday money due at the time you take your holiday !??

vxr8mate

1,689 posts

218 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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I believe she could class it as a 'family emergency' but as has has been said before she may not be able to take it as paid leave.

PV7998

405 posts

163 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Hi Tony,

With my employer this would be classed as compassionate (paid) leave.......however I'm in the public sector/gold plated pension....blah blah, so it might not be the same for Mrs TonyRPH.
Not a good idea for her to go sick now that they know she wants the day off - but one to remember for later.
Either way best of luck....

extraT

1,876 posts

179 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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R0G said:
Lesson learned for next time = keep quiet and go sick
This, always, always this.

Weddings,
Funerals,
Operations
Anything else which is important to you

As long as its only a day or two, call in sick.

To late for your Mrs now though, managemnt are aware of the dates she would like off.

Oh and as its PH- post a pic of your Mrs smile

Terminator X

20,493 posts

233 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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They obviously don't think much of her or indeed you imho. Suggest she looks for another job somewhere less draconian.

TX.

TonyRPH

Original Poster:

13,538 posts

197 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Thanks all for the responses, both serious and humorous.

I postponed it until later next month when she has managed to get the day off.

So it's sorted - but still annoying that I had to postpone it.

As for pictures..

Well, I don't have any suitable for posting here really - I would be banned... wink