Been offered an L322....
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Bit of a long story however due to ill' health my father in law is wanting to downsize and has offered me his 54 plate L322 vogue at a fairly decent price.
It's done 79000 miles (2.9 td) and he's had it for about two years and has been fairly trouble free apart from brake discs and pads and a couple of ball joints at the last MOT.
Question is to the Landy experts here...
Will this turn into a money pit for me at this kind of mileage or is it worth me dipping my toe in the water?
It would only be a weekend/family car as I do not need it for daily use.
It's in very decent nick but will be due a service anytime.
Thanks in advance chaps...
It's done 79000 miles (2.9 td) and he's had it for about two years and has been fairly trouble free apart from brake discs and pads and a couple of ball joints at the last MOT.
Question is to the Landy experts here...
Will this turn into a money pit for me at this kind of mileage or is it worth me dipping my toe in the water?
It would only be a weekend/family car as I do not need it for daily use.
It's in very decent nick but will be due a service anytime.
Thanks in advance chaps...
Bit of a long story however due to ill' health my father in law is wanting to downsize and has offered me his 54 plate L322 vogue at a fairly decent price.
It's done 79000 miles (2.9 td) and he's had it for about two years and has been fairly trouble free apart from brake discs and pads and a couple of ball joints at the last MOT.
Question is to the Landy experts here...
Will this turn into a money pit for me at this kind of mileage or is it worth me dipping my toe in the water?
It would only be a weekend/family car as I do not need it for daily use.
It's in very decent nick but will be due a service anytime.
Thanks in advance chaps...
It's done 79000 miles (2.9 td) and he's had it for about two years and has been fairly trouble free apart from brake discs and pads and a couple of ball joints at the last MOT.
Question is to the Landy experts here...
Will this turn into a money pit for me at this kind of mileage or is it worth me dipping my toe in the water?
It would only be a weekend/family car as I do not need it for daily use.
It's in very decent nick but will be due a service anytime.
Thanks in advance chaps...
Edited by MGZTV8 on Friday 28th June 18:20
The gearbox weakness is well documented - it normally expires at around 85-90 thosand miles - my good friend Richard car being typical at 86000 recently.
The petrol ones do not suffer from the same weakness as they use a ZF25HP - the diesels used a GM unit which was originally designed for light duty - not hauling round a 2.5 tonne monster.
A fully rebuild gearbox costs 1500 pounds from Birmingham Transmissions,including torque convertor, and a new oil cooler(optional but recommended) is about 150 pounds.
labour is six hours to change it at a specialist.
You will need to budget a total of £2500 including VAT.
The petrol ones do not suffer from the same weakness as they use a ZF25HP - the diesels used a GM unit which was originally designed for light duty - not hauling round a 2.5 tonne monster.
A fully rebuild gearbox costs 1500 pounds from Birmingham Transmissions,including torque convertor, and a new oil cooler(optional but recommended) is about 150 pounds.
labour is six hours to change it at a specialist.
You will need to budget a total of £2500 including VAT.
Thanks for that.
I don't really have that kind of money to throw at a car to be honest.
Might have to have a rethink although its a lovely car and I'm sorely tempted.
The more I read however the more I get a bit worried about the prospect of owning one..
Is there any good news or are they a money pit?
I don't really have that kind of money to throw at a car to be honest.
Might have to have a rethink although its a lovely car and I'm sorely tempted.
The more I read however the more I get a bit worried about the prospect of owning one..
Is there any good news or are they a money pit?
MGZTV8 said:
Thanks for that.
I don't really have that kind of money to throw at a car to be honest.
Might have to have a rethink although its a lovely car and I'm sorely tempted.
The more I read however the more I get a bit worried about the prospect of owning one..
Is there any good news or are they a money pit?
Yes, they do cost a lot to run but as it's going to be a weekend car then I'd say go for it. Gearbox (as already mentioned) is the big one. Just remember that it's one of those cars that will always need something or other doing to it.I don't really have that kind of money to throw at a car to be honest.
Might have to have a rethink although its a lovely car and I'm sorely tempted.
The more I read however the more I get a bit worried about the prospect of owning one..
Is there any good news or are they a money pit?
Get yourself over to Landyzone as there is a wealth of info on that forum.
Well said Sinjin -Landyzone is great.
there is an ongoing issue here that started with the P38.
As modern Range Rovers get older and cheaper to buy, they conversely become more expensive to maintain.
A 60-grand car will always be a 60-grand car when it comes to servicing and parts, irrespective of how much you bought it for...........................................
there is an ongoing issue here that started with the P38.
As modern Range Rovers get older and cheaper to buy, they conversely become more expensive to maintain.
A 60-grand car will always be a 60-grand car when it comes to servicing and parts, irrespective of how much you bought it for...........................................
vjj said:
Well said Sinjin -Landyzone is great.
there is an ongoing issue here that started with the P38.
As modern Range Rovers get older and cheaper to buy, they conversely become more expensive to maintain.
A 60-grand car will always be a 60-grand car when it comes to servicing and parts, irrespective of how much you bought it for...........................................
I would say p38's are now cheap to maintain thanks to the abundance of repair info on the internet and endless supply of cheap parts from those that are broken for spares. Even new parts are pretty reasonable imo.there is an ongoing issue here that started with the P38.
As modern Range Rovers get older and cheaper to buy, they conversely become more expensive to maintain.
A 60-grand car will always be a 60-grand car when it comes to servicing and parts, irrespective of how much you bought it for...........................................
Same with early (bmw) L322's as well - mainly due to the commonality with the bmw e39 540.
The problem now seems to start around 2005-2006 where there are plenty of problems, but a lack of cheap spares or diy repair info, so you are lumbered with expensive garage bills ultmatley making the cars worth less money.
I'm sure I read somewhere that the gearbox failures are caused by the TC breaking up.
Presumably if you replaced that before it failed as a bit of preventative maintenance then the gearbox failure could be delayed. Changing the gearbox oil would probably help too as they're not really sealed for life as originally specced.
Worth asking on Landyzone though as there is a lot of knowledge available on there.
I'd go for it in your position if it's cheap enough - there's a lot to be said for knowing it's recent history.
Presumably if you replaced that before it failed as a bit of preventative maintenance then the gearbox failure could be delayed. Changing the gearbox oil would probably help too as they're not really sealed for life as originally specced.
Worth asking on Landyzone though as there is a lot of knowledge available on there.
I'd go for it in your position if it's cheap enough - there's a lot to be said for knowing it's recent history.
Op don't be put off by it.
If you looked in the Internet you would never buy any car as they all can have problems and people always go to the Internet to moan at how their car isn't working, but never that it is working fine.
Someone on here bought a very cheap v8 model with high miles and its only needed a couple of sensors.
Make sure it's serviced, give it a good run every now and again to get everything up to temperature and let it clear it's throat and it should be fine. The gearbox oil should be the first job to get changed. After that, just give it a once over.
Ffrr.com is a mine of knowledge and info, I would register on there and get reading to see what else needs checked and how to solve it.
They are a fantastic car to drive and waft around in. There will be a good Indy somewhere near you to give it the car and tlc it may need.
If you looked in the Internet you would never buy any car as they all can have problems and people always go to the Internet to moan at how their car isn't working, but never that it is working fine.
Someone on here bought a very cheap v8 model with high miles and its only needed a couple of sensors.
Make sure it's serviced, give it a good run every now and again to get everything up to temperature and let it clear it's throat and it should be fine. The gearbox oil should be the first job to get changed. After that, just give it a once over.
Ffrr.com is a mine of knowledge and info, I would register on there and get reading to see what else needs checked and how to solve it.
They are a fantastic car to drive and waft around in. There will be a good Indy somewhere near you to give it the car and tlc it may need.
Guys
Thank you so much for all the replies.
As my username suggests I owned a ZT260 and bought it even though I'd heard lots of horror stories however mine turned out to be perfect.
I am getting it at a very good price and know some history whilst my FIL has had the car and apart from what I mentioned in my first post it has been faultless but all this reading of 2K for a gearbox makes me shudder but may go for a gearbox oil change as a preventative.
I think I'm going to go for it as despite what I've read I always set my heart on a rangie and am in a unique position where I'm being offered one at a decent price.
Really appreciate all your help and keep all your suggestions coming on other things I need to check for!
My head hurts with all the research I'm doing!!
Thank you so much for all the replies.
As my username suggests I owned a ZT260 and bought it even though I'd heard lots of horror stories however mine turned out to be perfect.
I am getting it at a very good price and know some history whilst my FIL has had the car and apart from what I mentioned in my first post it has been faultless but all this reading of 2K for a gearbox makes me shudder but may go for a gearbox oil change as a preventative.
I think I'm going to go for it as despite what I've read I always set my heart on a rangie and am in a unique position where I'm being offered one at a decent price.
Really appreciate all your help and keep all your suggestions coming on other things I need to check for!
My head hurts with all the research I'm doing!!
A.J.M said:
RedLeicester said:
A.J.M said:
Someone on here bought a very cheap v8 model with high miles and its only needed a couple of sensors.
The clue is in the engine
No history either and only 150k on the clock!edc said:
A.J.M said:
RedLeicester said:
A.J.M said:
Someone on here bought a very cheap v8 model with high miles and its only needed a couple of sensors.
The clue is in the engine No history either and only 150k on the clock!Thought it had 2 lambda sensors?
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