What does the term "full respray" mean to you?
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Went to look at a car today and it was described as "benefiting from a full respray in 2010". As it turns out it had had a blow over and poor one at that. I have always used "full respray" to describe a paint job that involved stripping down to bare metal and doing all the prep work rather than just flatting down the old paint and spraying over the top. Am I wrong in thinking this?
Hmmmm. Good question. I think people may say that a full respray, would mean spraying the entire care. Rather than spraying a specific panel, or a below the window line respray. I have to be honest and say that i probably wouldn't expect a bare metal job. I would expect the old paint to be flatted down and any imperfections taken care of prior to the respray.
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Vajazzle said:
A full respray is exactly that, the vehicle has been sprayed all over for a consistent finish, rather than a partial respray. A bare metal respray is a different kettle of fish.
+1I regard a full respray to be an external respray so the exterior looks fresh. many people refer to this as a blow over but it's anything but that. to do a respray right you have to spend more time on the prep than the actual application of paint to make it look right. some bodyshops don't.
Bare metal respray as above is just that, everything completely stripped external and internal then stripped off back to the metal and every nook and cranny painted.
Vajazzle said:
A full respray is exactly that, the vehicle has been sprayed all over for a consistent finish, rather than a partial respray. A bare metal respray is a different kettle of fish.
^^^^^That is what I would expect.
Add maybe " professional" or "crap" before it too maybe to be more specific. . I would not expect inside door shuts done for that terminology necessarily either. "Bare metal respray" I would expect to have a real pro finish but would want to see photographic evidence to back it up too.
Six months on my dart includes removing all the primer, but not gel coat, and letting the car sweat outside in the sun when it was possible. The moisture was still coming out of the fiberglass. and mine is a good example. It's in primer now and the pinpricks are being filled
Apparently the Dart's fiberglass was rubbed down wet in the the factory. All the chrome is off, so is the windscreen, dash out, doors off etc etc.
It's very painful to loose it for a year
Oh and a few thousand pounds.
Apparently the Dart's fiberglass was rubbed down wet in the the factory. All the chrome is off, so is the windscreen, dash out, doors off etc etc.
It's very painful to loose it for a year
Oh and a few thousand pounds.
plasticpig said:
Went to look at a car today and it was described as "benefiting from a full respray in 2010". As it turns out it had had a blow over and poor one at that. I have always used "full respray" to describe a paint job that involved stripping down to bare metal and doing all the prep work rather than just flatting down the old paint and spraying over the top. Am I wrong in thinking this?
The price of the car should tell you what type of respray it's had. A full glass-out bare metal job will cost several thousand pounds.
dartissimus said:
Six months on my dart includes removing all the primer, but not gel coat, and letting the car sweat outside in the sun when it was possible. The moisture was still coming out of the fiberglass. and mine is a good example. It's in primer now and the pinpricks are being filled
Apparently the Dart's fiberglass was rubbed down wet in the the factory. All the chrome is off, so is the windscreen, dash out, doors off etc etc.
It's very painful to loose it for a year
Oh and a few thousand pounds.
Been there and done that:Apparently the Dart's fiberglass was rubbed down wet in the the factory. All the chrome is off, so is the windscreen, dash out, doors off etc etc.
It's very painful to loose it for a year
Oh and a few thousand pounds.
Cost £8k at the time which sounds quite expensive. I have the job sheets for the work though and they spent over 350 hours on it; so it was actually pretty cheap. I guess if I ever sell it I should describe it as having a bare fibreglass respray.
Edited by plasticpig on Saturday 29th June 19:44
As said above, the price of the car should indicate the work done. A 10 year old Laguna for £400 is likely to be a quick blow over.
A £50k e-type should have had a glass out repaint.
Many don't realise how labour intensive a good finish is and from 10 feet away, even a blow over can look OK for a while.
A £50k e-type should have had a glass out repaint.
Many don't realise how labour intensive a good finish is and from 10 feet away, even a blow over can look OK for a while.
benjj said:
'Full respray' I'd expect to be what the OP saw: a half hearted blow over.
er, not quite: mine had front & rear screens out, all the trim, door handles, bumpers etc removed, all dents fixed & any corrosion dealt with. No way was it a "half hearted blow over", & it's still good some years on, but taking the car back to bare metal wasn't required. So I describe it as a "full respray", as that's what the bodyshop quoted for, were paid for & if anyone wants to be bored sh!tless looking at the photos & the bill, they're welcome... A full respray to me means a high standard of finish with trim/glass removed and every commonly seen surface, ie door/boot/bonnet shuts, insides of doors/bootlid painted. I wouldn't expect the engine bay to be done although I would expect it to be tidy and not clashing with the rest.
Externally I wouldn't expect to be able to tell if it had been repainted or was factory finish - no overspray or masking tape lines on rubber.
But that's me. I think your average guy who pays someone to paint his car will use the term to mean all the external panels have been painted and not even know if the original paint is underneath or the trim has just been masked off to paint. A bit like "full engine rebuild" which covers anything from all conceivable wearing parts being replaced to something that's just pulled apart & rebuilt with new gaskets using partly worn components.
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Externally I wouldn't expect to be able to tell if it had been repainted or was factory finish - no overspray or masking tape lines on rubber.
But that's me. I think your average guy who pays someone to paint his car will use the term to mean all the external panels have been painted and not even know if the original paint is underneath or the trim has just been masked off to paint. A bit like "full engine rebuild" which covers anything from all conceivable wearing parts being replaced to something that's just pulled apart & rebuilt with new gaskets using partly worn components.
Brian
b2hbm said:
A full respray to me means a high standard of finish with trim/glass removed and every commonly seen surface, ie door/boot/bonnet shuts, insides of doors/bootlid painted. I wouldn't expect the engine bay to be done although I would expect it to be tidy and not clashing with the rest.
Are you talking about a colour change, or a standard repaint?Difficult one there, agree that to me I would expect a full respray to be just so but I have been careful with one of my MG's for sale at the moment, its had a bare metal respray, but not 'full'. Full on the outside but boot and interior floors/tunnel blown over as very good anyway just needed re-freshing and it's fully carpeted anyway so not seen, but it wasn't a rub down job on the outside it was all back to bare metal including door's etc. so not a 'full' re-spray as such. I'v seen plenty of cars advertised as such when paint has been just rubbed down/filled and redone, guess it's all down to what we consider it to be and questions should be asked. I'd expect panels to be bare metal to be a proper 'full re-spray'
MarkwG said:
b2hbm said:
A full respray to me means a high standard of finish with trim/glass removed and every commonly seen surface, ie door/boot/bonnet shuts, insides of doors/bootlid painted. I wouldn't expect the engine bay to be done although I would expect it to be tidy and not clashing with the rest.
Are you talking about a colour change, or a standard repaint?The comments about removing glass, etc, are regardless of if the colour is the same or changed, I don't think you get as clean an edge if you mask off a component. I've just finished painting my Elan, it was red before and it's red again, but windscreen/doors/boot/etc were removed and sprayed off the car. I find it hard to spray doors in-situ without having dry overspray in the hinge areas and I don't like to see masking lines when you open the door or boot lid. Again, a personal thing, YMMV.....
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