Hayfever remedies?
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AstonZagato

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14,156 posts

239 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Normally I survive the summer by taking Claritin (Loratadine) and using Beconase nasal spray (beclometasone dipropionate). This seemed to work well for me.

However, this year, due to a case of Central serous retinopathy I have been told to avoid any steroids. I didn't think this would mean anything for me as I'm not exactly Ben Johnson, mainlining huge amounts of anabolic steroids. However, it turns out that the Beconase is now off limits as it uses steroids.

I cannot get by on Loratidine alone. I'm suffering one of the worst summers in 20 years.

Any recommendations for non-steroidal nasal sprays, other tablets, eye drops?

Edited by AstonZagato on Sunday 30th June 22:53

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Opticrom eye drops for me, superb stuff. Over the counter as well, get the larger bottle.

Not sure about the rest, tried the usual suspects over the years and they never worked as well as the steroid jabs. No help there, sorry.

Edit. No idea if steroids are used in the eye drops, was told it was inert stuff that fills the eye displacing the stuff that makes them itch like crazy.

Edited by jmorgan on Sunday 30th June 14:11

AstonZagato

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14,156 posts

239 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Thanks. It's now on the list for this afternoon's trip to Boots.

Any more?

egomeister

7,591 posts

292 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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I use Pirinase (formerly flixonase) spray which I've always found better than Beconase but it's probably still a steroid.

I used to take terfenadine years ago which was brilliant, but it was withdrawn. It's been replaced by fexfenadine but Doc's are reluctant to prescribe it - you may have better luck in your circumstance though.

Mobile Chicane

21,984 posts

241 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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It is particularly bad this year. I don't normally get hayfever in summer, just tree pollens in spring, but this year even I'm sniffling.

Best thing I've found is bog-standard 'Sudafed' tablets for nasal congestion. A friend told me about these as she gets bad hayfever, but wasn't allowed to take anti-histamines when she was pregnant.

These work brilliantly on their own and are about a quarter of the price of anti-histamines. Top up with half an anti-histamine tablet if need be.


Steffan

10,362 posts

257 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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egomeister said:
I use Pirinase (formerly flixonase) spray which I've always found better than Beconase but it's probably still a steroid.

I used to take terfenadine years ago which was brilliant, but it was withdrawn. It's been replaced by fexfenadine but Doc's are reluctant to prescribe it - you may have better luck in your circumstance though.
I have taken most of the many hay fever cures over the years but this year was terrible for me so I went to the doctor who looked at my umpteen drugs list and consulted his pharmacopoeia and came up with fexfenadine as the best probable palliative. It does work but causes me serious dopey tendencies which are already a natural ability I have which does not need magnifying. Sadly the side effects are sufficiently serious for me to stop after the first few days. Back to loretadine and citrozene hydrochloride and beconase for me. Good luck to you I will be interested to see if anything does work it does seem a bad year. Given your eye trouble I would be very cautious in every medicine you are taking you need to clear everything with your doctor specifically IMO. No room for error with that kind of challenge.

mrsshpub

929 posts

213 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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I find desloratadine more effective than loratadine at the peak of the hayfever season. I think it's prescription only.

vescaegg

30,131 posts

196 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Fexofenadine. Prescription only. Utterly destroys my hayfever even if its in full flow having forgotten to take it say in the morning. Ive never had any side effects personally.

Works within 10 minutes and its like ive never had hayfever.

One small tablet each morning throughout Summer and I get not a hint of it. Forget to take it in the morning - catastrophic!

AstonZagato

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14,156 posts

239 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Thanks to all.

It sounds like I need to go to the GP

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Be careful shovelling the antihistamines, prolonged use is linked to early development of Alzheimer's. It's a pisser isn't it as for those of us who suffer badly with it.

Steffan

10,362 posts

257 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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rhinochopig said:
Be careful shovelling the antihistamines, prolonged use is linked to early development of Alzheimer's. It's a pisser isn't it as for those of us who suffer badly with it.
Very good advice which hay fever sufferers need to consider carefully. There is clear evidence that prolonged use of antihistamines causes mental deterioration and confusion. Without overblowing the side effect this does require serious consideration.

BrewsterBear

1,548 posts

221 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Loratadine and Citirizine do absolutely nothing for me. If you want to try an over-the-counter option then the Benadryl with a blue box containing Acrivastine seem to work well for me. If it's a bad day for the pollen count then I still end up with a runny face, but it definitely helps most of the time.

ADM06

1,077 posts

201 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Mine has got a lot better in the last week, and I've stopped taking anything. smile

Zad

13,006 posts

265 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Steffan said:
rhinochopig said:
Be careful shovelling the antihistamines, prolonged use is linked to early development of Alzheimer's. It's a pisser isn't it as for those of us who suffer badly with it.
Very good advice which hay fever sufferers need to consider carefully. There is clear evidence that prolonged use of antihistamines causes mental deterioration and confusion. Without overblowing the side effect this does require serious consideration.
Very concerning. I take sudafed nasal spray now and then for blocked sinuses, related to an ear infection that keeps repeating and it a real hassle, my local surgery GPs seem willing to prescribe antibiotics etc but reluctant to do tests, but that's a whole thread in itself. I also have a relative who has used Beconase on and off for some time, and I have started to become worried about with regards to mental acuity. Not sure how I'm going to approach that tricky subject.

I can certainly Google, but to avoid me wading through thousands of wannabe class action posts, do you have any references for relevant articles?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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^^^^^
Scary, or should it be? What doses are we talking about? Not a doctor and not going to use google.

Steffan

10,362 posts

257 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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jmorgan said:
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Scary, or should it be? What doses are we talking about? Not a doctor and not going to use google.
All drugs have side effects. The common sleep inducer Niytol was discovered in a search for effective hay fever remedies but the soporific qualities became far more interesting and hence Nytol is the most common sleep tablet. Nytol is only sold by Chemists who warn of the long term risks every time they sell it. Once again the problem is the mental confusion that these drugs can cause in some individuals.

There are no drugs without side effects. Some like Asprin have totally changed use because the side effect are beneficial. Exercise reasonable care in drug use is good advice to everyone.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

313 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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I understand there are side effects, just wondering how much for the problem (probably asking this the wrong way or not really understanding the situation?). I have pretty much not used what I have supposed to over the years due to seeing no real benefit and other than having a box of kleenex for the nose I have just muddled through. The eye drops are pretty much what I get away with and the steroid jabs stopped 30 years ago. (30! yikes ).

theshrew

6,008 posts

213 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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All the tablets etc make me feel like dirt so a few years ago i tried some other stuff.

First off Hay Max doesnt work 100% but it reduces it loads i love it.

I only need something else if my eyes start to hurt then i just put eye drops in

dirty boy

14,858 posts

238 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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vescaegg said:
Fexofenadine. Prescription only. Utterly destroys my hayfever even if its in full flow having forgotten to take it say in the morning. Ive never had any side effects personally.

Works within 10 minutes and its like ive never had hayfever.

One small tablet each morning throughout Summer and I get not a hint of it. Forget to take it in the morning - catastrophic!
The only thing i've ever had that works, although i've still had hayfever this year, mental.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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jmorgan said:
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Scary, or should it be? What doses are we talking about? Not a doctor and not going to use google.
The research doesn't indicate dose - severity / time-frame correlations afaik, just that there is a relationship.

One remedy that might work for some is locally produced - and it needs to be very local - honey. The theory being you build up a tolerance to local pollen throughout the year thus reducing the effects.