F1 Pit Crew Fire Retardent Overalls- When and when not wear?
Discussion
Just watched the first F1 practice from Germany and whilst Lotus were changing a Front Wing I noticed that none of engineers working on the car were wearing Fire Retardent Overalls they were just wearing shorts and T shirts.
Whats the difference between working on a car in practice and a race? Both carry the same amount of risk as the other now there's no refueling.
Whats the difference between working on a car in practice and a race? Both carry the same amount of risk as the other now there's no refueling.
Rude-boy said:
TheHeretic said:
No it isn't.
During Free Practice the Pit Lane tends to be a much more relaxed (Hey this is all relative!) place than during the Qualy or a Race. That said this year at LM it was romper suits and helmets all round for all during all track activity.
TheHeretic said:
Which is pretty much what I said in the 2nd post...
Sorry the old 'quote' rather than 'quote all' button issue there. I was agreeing with you and expanding on why there is not the same level of risk as during 'non competitive' sessions.
Was a shame at LM as had managed to arrange for someone to have access to Pit Lane during the Free Practice session on the Wednesday but they didn’t have a helmet and romper suit to hand or time to find one since they had changed the rules from last year.
TheHeretic said:
No it isn't.
It is (sort of)Ok its an extreme example, but why do they deem it more of a risk in qually and the race? Practice sessions are used to perfect the pit lane entry speeds and pit stops, so surely the danger is the same? More so maybe, as the pit lane is a also busier place during FP1-FP3...
Is it a hangover from the refuelling days? During FP sessions fuel was put in the cars whilst in the garage? But that doesn't really make sense for qually
Dr Murdoch said:
It is (sort of)
Ok its an extreme example, but why do they deem it more of a risk in qually and the race? Practice sessions are used to perfect the pit lane entry speeds and pit stops, so surely the danger is the same? More so maybe, as the pit lane is a also busier place during FP1-FP3...
Is it a hangover from the refuelling days? During FP sessions fuel was put in the cars whilst in the garage? But that doesn't really make sense for qually
Because out on circuit they can be going the same, if not faster than the race, and qualifying. The danger on circuit is the same. Passing much slower cars, etc. entering the pits is a lot less frenetic, particularly as they work on the cars within the garages most of the time. You do not have race speed pit stops, with multiple cars doing their best to do it as fast as possible. Ok its an extreme example, but why do they deem it more of a risk in qually and the race? Practice sessions are used to perfect the pit lane entry speeds and pit stops, so surely the danger is the same? More so maybe, as the pit lane is a also busier place during FP1-FP3...
Is it a hangover from the refuelling days? During FP sessions fuel was put in the cars whilst in the garage? But that doesn't really make sense for qually
So, same on circuit, less in the pits.
TheHeretic said:
Because out on circuit they can be going the same, if not faster than the race, and qualifying. The danger on circuit is the same. Passing much slower cars, etc. entering the pits is a lot less frenetic, particularly as they work on the cars within the garages most of the time. You do not have race speed pit stops, with multiple cars doing their best to do it as fast as possible.
So, same on circuit, less in the pits.
But you do have race speed stops, they practice these constantly over the weekend as the surface area changes from race to race, therefore the drivers need to practice coming into the pit box, the pit box adhesion levels change over the weekend as more rubber goes down.So, same on circuit, less in the pits.
And the pit lane has more traffic per hour than a race, however I do accept that the adrenalin levels are lower during FP sessions, but with the increased traffic I would say that the safety levels are comparable. Back in the refuelling days I wouldn't, obviously.
Dr Murdoch said:
But you do have race speed stops, they practice these constantly over the weekend as the surface area changes from race to race, therefore the drivers need to practice coming into the pit box, the pit box adhesion levels change over the weekend as more rubber goes down.
And the pit lane has more traffic per hour than a race, however I do accept that the adrenalin levels are lower during FP sessions, but with the increased traffic I would say that the safety levels are comparable. Back in the refuelling days I wouldn't, obviously.
I was responding to the ridiculous 'why wear helmets in free practice' comment. And the pit lane has more traffic per hour than a race, however I do accept that the adrenalin levels are lower during FP sessions, but with the increased traffic I would say that the safety levels are comparable. Back in the refuelling days I wouldn't, obviously.
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