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http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/muscle-cra...
This is a good start. The series on fatigue is also brilliant stuff.
Kam
This is a good start. The series on fatigue is also brilliant stuff.
Kam
knk said:
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/muscle-cra...
This is a good start. The series on fatigue is also brilliant stuff.
Kam
Interesting stuff. But not much use for prevention?This is a good start. The series on fatigue is also brilliant stuff.
Kam
LordGrover said:
Is this exercise related or does it happen when watching telly?
Exercise related. Happens apparently at random after anything between 0.5 and 3 miles of running, can happen after 30-40 minutes on the bike, possibly worse with higher cadence, and a month ago it happened after 30 seconds of skipping. Never happens when walking: I can walk 30 miles a day for three days and have no trace of it.My calf muscles flutter quietly to themselves, too - generally if I watch the telly after a run/ride.
BlackVanDyke said:
If it's really persistent (more than one evening without stopping) then take it to see a medic - nearly lost my dad about 15 years ago to 'cramp' that turned out to actually be a DVT which in turn became a pulmonary embolism...
Cripes! Cramps are only transient, but the tears that result if they happen when I'm running can take weeks to clear up.IroningMan said:
BlackVanDyke said:
If it's really persistent (more than one evening without stopping) then take it to see a medic - nearly lost my dad about 15 years ago to 'cramp' that turned out to actually be a DVT which in turn became a pulmonary embolism...
Cripes! Cramps are only transient, but the tears that result if they happen when I'm running can take weeks to clear up.IroningMan said:
LordGrover said:
Is this exercise related or does it happen when watching telly?
Exercise related. Happens apparently at random after anything between 0.5 and 3 miles of running, can happen after 30-40 minutes on the bike, possibly worse with higher cadence, and a month ago it happened after 30 seconds of skipping. Never happens when walking: I can walk 30 miles a day for three days and have no trace of it.My calf muscles flutter quietly to themselves, too - generally if I watch the telly after a run/ride.

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Interesting.
I've always been on the side of loss of muscle control as the cause for cramps. While Sodium, Calcium and Magnesium some of the few minerals required to be abundant in the body and therefore, diet, I've always put cramps down to muscle health and motor-neuron function (of which Na, Ca and Mg are needed). But muscle control though good motor-neuron and brain health is something that is learned (indeed one of the first things that begins to grow during initial and good muscle training, long before firmness, strength and size).
I used to get cramps quite a lot as a kid and while I was a desk-bound office slave. Since quitting capitalist dronal life and sorting myself out into a sexual tyrannosaurus, they've gone.
Only really realised on reading this thread.
Could be diet. Could be muscle health. Could be cognitive health. Probably all three.
I've always been on the side of loss of muscle control as the cause for cramps. While Sodium, Calcium and Magnesium some of the few minerals required to be abundant in the body and therefore, diet, I've always put cramps down to muscle health and motor-neuron function (of which Na, Ca and Mg are needed). But muscle control though good motor-neuron and brain health is something that is learned (indeed one of the first things that begins to grow during initial and good muscle training, long before firmness, strength and size).
I used to get cramps quite a lot as a kid and while I was a desk-bound office slave. Since quitting capitalist dronal life and sorting myself out into a sexual tyrannosaurus, they've gone.
Only really realised on reading this thread. Could be diet. Could be muscle health. Could be cognitive health. Probably all three.
mattikake said:
Interesting.
I've always been on the side of loss of muscle control as the cause for cramps. While Sodium, Calcium and Magnesium some of the few minerals required to be abundant in the body and therefore, diet, I've always put cramps down to muscle health and motor-neuron function (of which Na, Ca and Mg are needed). But muscle control though good motor-neuron and brain health is something that is learned (indeed one of the first things that begins to grow during initial and good muscle training, long before firmness, strength and size).
I used to get cramps quite a lot as a kid and while I was a desk-bound office slave. Since quitting capitalist dronal life and sorting myself out into a sexual tyrannosaurus, they've gone.
Only really realised on reading this thread.
Could be diet. Could be muscle health. Could be cognitive health. Probably all three.
So you're saying that I need to eat, train and think like you?I've always been on the side of loss of muscle control as the cause for cramps. While Sodium, Calcium and Magnesium some of the few minerals required to be abundant in the body and therefore, diet, I've always put cramps down to muscle health and motor-neuron function (of which Na, Ca and Mg are needed). But muscle control though good motor-neuron and brain health is something that is learned (indeed one of the first things that begins to grow during initial and good muscle training, long before firmness, strength and size).
I used to get cramps quite a lot as a kid and while I was a desk-bound office slave. Since quitting capitalist dronal life and sorting myself out into a sexual tyrannosaurus, they've gone.
Only really realised on reading this thread. Could be diet. Could be muscle health. Could be cognitive health. Probably all three.
Maybe cramp isn't such a high price to pay after all...

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