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944fan

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4,962 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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I appreciate this is not a subject you expect to see on PH, but I am sure you can all agree it isn't the kind of thing you can discuss down the pub with you mates. At least that is true with mine. Anyway, I know for certain there is at least one Dr on PH and I hope there are others who could offer some advice.

I know there are plenty who can take the piss also. Don't hold back, I have the skin of a Rhino and like a bit of banter.

This will probably be a long post but want to include the detail. Basically from the 1st time I tried to have sex back in my (late) teens Captain 944fan failed to stand to attention. I saw my GP (this is 15 or so years ago) about this on many occasions. He did blood tests and nothing was found. His view was that is was a confidence issue and prescribed me Viagra to boost it.

This did seem to work and for a period when I was with my girlfriend/wife I was able to make the beast without taking any, but this was short lived. I am married, and have been for 6 years, my wife is very supportive. We have two kids so it is not like this has had a massive impact, but both my children have been conceived thanks to drugs. But I still struggle to do it without taking something. Cialis is the preferred drug at the minute as it lasts for days. Gives me bad heartburn though.

Anyway, to my point and question. As above any shag requires a pill, one which costs £10 a pop. As any married man will atest this is costing me , on average, about £5 a year! But seriously, spontaneity aside I feel like I should be able to have sex without having a tablet and then suffering the side effects. It clearly isn't physiological, there must be something else going on. I know there are health factors and currently I am over weight (have lost over 2 stone and still going though) but I had this problem in my mid 20s when I was the lightest and fittest I have ever been.

Am I doomed to drugs for ever? If so, should I have to pay full tilt for them? Sounds cynical I know but £10 for sex with someone you are married to seems excessive.

Any ideas? Back to the GP? Not sure I can go through explaining the whole thing again to a new Dr.

In the end, just fed up with it. The pills work great but that seems like it is treating the symptom and not the cause.

simoid

19,774 posts

187 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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Can/do you have the occasional five-fingered shuffle?

vladcjelli

3,370 posts

187 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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944fan said:
Cialis is the preferred drug at the minute as it lasts for days. Gives me bad heartburn though.
yikes

My only advice: Don't use public transport.

Slink

2,947 posts

201 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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tryed watching a few pro's that 'share' on the internet for free?

or perhaps did you watch porn too much when younger and that has created a mental block as they are all stunners (for the most part) and, now im not trying to diss you wife, but perhaps she isnt as good as a 10/10 skinny big busted porn star with a brilliant face and perfect everything else......

remember, just thinking here, because certainly, i dont think the women around here are even close to what you can see on the certain streaming sites.


just to reiterate, im not calling your wife ugly wink

evo4a

737 posts

210 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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944fan said:
Not sure I can go through explaining the whole thing again to a new Dr.
yet you seem OK sharing with quite a few thousand strangers..... Dr will be easy.

VinceFox

20,566 posts

201 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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Perhaps you have niche tastes that are going unmet? I myself can only perform when getting the st beaten out of me by the animaniacs nurse.

944fan

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4,962 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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evo4a said:
yet you seem OK sharing with quite a few thousand strangers..... Dr will be easy.
I don't have to look you fkers in the eye thumbup

No my wife does not have porn star looks and technique. I am pretty sure this issue pre-dates Internet porn (or at least my access to it).


944fan

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4,962 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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Vajazzle said:
If the blood tests were ok then it's surely an underlying psychological condition? Get a second opinion if you feel otherwise.

I suffer from a medical condition that was diagnosed 7 years ago now and I've got low testosterone levels, testogel supplements do nothing but make me aggressive and give me spots! As such my sex drive is practically non existent, but what you don't miss doesn't bother you eh.
Testosterone was on the low level of normal and was ruled out. No problem with drive, just ability.

With regards to wking. Same issue. Able to get by though

944fan

Original Poster:

4,962 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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vladcjelli said:
944fan said:
Cialis is the preferred drug at the minute as it lasts for days. Gives me bad heartburn though.
yikes

My only advice: Don't use public transport.
Don't. You should try the stuff. Slightest, and I do mean the slightest, bit of excitement and it is like trying to smuggle Nelson's column in your pants.

Hoofy

80,003 posts

311 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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How heavy are you now?

Do you do any exercise?

Do you eat healthily?

Do you smoke?

Do you have an unusual fear of dark holes?

Council Baby

19,746 posts

219 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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Hoofy said:
Do you have an unusual fear of dark holes?
rofl

They're all pink on the inside!

I know a couple of older chaps who have discussed this at length (pun not intended) but their experiences were purely that they now love Viagra and any other similar drugs and it was age/illness/diabetes etc related.

Hoofy

80,003 posts

311 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Council Baby said:
rofl

They're all pink on the inside!
Are they? Been a while. grumpy

aw51 121565

4,773 posts

262 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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944fan said:
The pills work great but that seems like it is treating the symptom and not the cause.
I appeciate this has been difficult to post - from the point of view of an ever-discrete GP Receptionist! smile

We - well, the GP - would usually prescribe 4 doses of Cialis per month - or one a week - of this medication after at least one Consultation, usually on a private prescription...

That's the symptom sorted - so what's the cause? I'd initially be asking the GP for a referral to a Psychologist to get to the root (no pun intended smile ) of the problems behind it... smile

These people - GPs, Psychologists (and even some Receptionists wink ) - have heard it all before (if I haven't, you'd never guess it as you tell me), will not judge, and will find a way forward with and for you smile .

SpydieNut

5,958 posts

252 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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I'd also see your GP again. Maybe re-run the tests - mainly to exclude diabetes, thyroid problems and an early morning testosterone level. It's been advised that even low-normal levels of testosterone may cause E.D and a trial of replacement would be reasonable. Ideally the level needs to be >17 to provide effective erections.

Lifestyle issues also need addressing, as you mention. Weight, general fitness level, regular exercise, stress, fatigue, depression, smoking, alcohol etc, all affect erections. Psychological issues are important too and maybe some counselling (psychosexual or general) may help.

Lastly, it's become clear that E.D may be an early marker of vascular disease and so the GP will want to monitor other risk factors like BP and cholesterol - so please see them. Also, extreme distress (as a result of your E.D) would be a reason to be allowed these on the NHS. This usually needs to be diagnosed by a urologist though.

Good luck!

HughS47

613 posts

163 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Consider discussing this with your GP again and while there, have you been checked for diabetes? Most urology services now run ED clinics. Best of luck.

mu0n

2,348 posts

162 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Had your test levels checked?

944fan

Original Poster:

4,962 posts

214 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Hoofy said:
How heavy are you now?

Do you do any exercise?

Do you eat healthily?

Do you smoke?

Do you have an unusual fear of dark holes?
Currently I am 17 stone. 6'5'' so about 2 and a bit stone over weight. Was just over 19 stone.

I cycle to work every day. 13 miles and normally do that quite fast. I swim 2-3 times a week also. This is fairly recent and for most of my life in the last 10 years I haven't done a great deal of exercise.

I eat pretty healthily. Try and eat plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables, wholemeal breads and pasta. I do enjoy the odd pizza every now and then.

Never smoked. Do drink quite a lot of wine though.

No fear of dark holes thumbup


944fan

Original Poster:

4,962 posts

214 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Thanks for all the advice.

I have been tested recently for diabetes and do not have that. My testosterone levels where checked years ago when the problem first appeared, but not recently. They were on the low side of normal. Not low enough to treat.

Will make an appointment at the GP. I assume despite changing Dr's twice and the original consultation being years ago that they should have my records and see what was done/discussed previously?

I may wait until I have lost a bit more weight. Don't want them to jump on that and say its all down to being overweight so come back when you aren't. I am sure it isn't weight related as I mentioned above, in my mid 20s I was going to the gym 3-4 times a week and weighed 13 st 10 lb and still had the problem.

Hoofy

80,003 posts

311 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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944fan said:
Currently I am 17 stone. 6'5'' so about 2 and a bit stone over weight. Was just over 19 stone.

I cycle to work every day. 13 miles and normally do that quite fast. I swim 2-3 times a week also. This is fairly recent and for most of my life in the last 10 years I haven't done a great deal of exercise.

I eat pretty healthily. Try and eat plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables, wholemeal breads and pasta. I do enjoy the odd pizza every now and then.

Never smoked. Do drink quite a lot of wine though.

No fear of dark holes thumbup
If you've only made changes fairly recently, then stick at them and see how things change. (Not that you shouldn't continue to seek help as recommended by others.)

I understand that building muscle increases testosterone which may help. I would consider a strength training routine such as:
http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-st...

Build big leg muscles which is supposed to help with testosterone levels.

WinstonWolf

72,863 posts

268 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Have you considered applying for Channel 4's Embarrassing Bodies?

"Dr, I'm too ashamed to let my boyfriend see my foofoo."
"Would you show the entire nation?"
"Sure" biggrin