Track Day Noise GT3 - is this a solution ?
Track Day Noise GT3 - is this a solution ?
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majordad

Original Poster:

3,630 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Saw this photo of Cup Cars on the grid, notice how the pipes are angled downwards, is this to help lower noise and would it work on a road going GT3/RS ?

http://i40.tinypic.com/w6xn2g.jpg


Xps911

412 posts

176 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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it does work, my friend had to do this on his escort rally car

HokumPokum

2,089 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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majordad said:
Saw this photo of Cup Cars on the grid, notice how the pipes are angled downwards, is this to help lower noise and would it work on a road going GT3/RS ?

http://i40.tinypic.com/w6xn2g.jpg
the better and much much easier to do this is via a 6mm ID vacuum end cap to plug up the exhaust flap control solenoid found at the right side of the engine. i'll find out how much quieter this is next week when i am measured

fioran0

2,410 posts

201 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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They work to get you past track side sound monitoring stations by directing the sound away from the booth (more commonly) or downwards (to try and generally diffuse). Can be enough to gain you a few extra db though for those tracks when you are close ish and so in this type of situation can be effective. I've used them on a few tracks.
Won't help on static testing though and this seems to be the most common way track days are tested right?. The 911 suffers massively in these tests because everything is situated back there and adds to the noise when testing in this way. Sadly explaining this and asking for trackside tests fall on deaf ears.

Edited by fioran0 on Wednesday 17th July 13:18

Slickhillsy

1,773 posts

172 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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http://www.speedlifemotorsport.com/awe-tuning-gt3-...

"Our turn down tips can rotate 360 degree on our tip adapter plate, allowing you to fine tune the direction of the exhaust outlet away from the sound meters at the track."

Far Cough

2,481 posts

197 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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HokumPokum said:
the better and much much easier to do this is via a 6mm ID vacuum end cap to plug up the exhaust flap control solenoid found at the right side of the engine. i'll find out how much quieter this is next week when i am measured
997.1 GT3RS - Tested at Brands ambient temp , 18k miles on std car. 102db. Vacuum cap added and 2db quieter immediately. Re tested with air con off and clutch pedal held in and resulted in 99db. Took the car to thoroughly warm up the exhaust and crept in at 98db and was allowed to participate. Took the vacuum cap off and had no issues for the day with the sport button on aswell.

HokumPokum

2,089 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Far Cough said:
997.1 GT3RS - Tested at Brands ambient temp , 18k miles on std car. 102db. Vacuum cap added and 2db quieter immediately. Re tested with air con off and clutch pedal held in and resulted in 99db. Took the car to thoroughly warm up the exhaust and crept in at 98db and was allowed to participate. Took the vacuum cap off and had no issues for the day with the sport button on aswell.
magic... i have a 7.2RS but should similarly benefit... it was tested at 103db before held at 6000rpm with AC off and clutch in.

it looks like this mod is worth 4 dB which is right on the money.. well done.... another reason why GT3s are the best track cars... you can even silence it easily...


Defo handy to know you won't get blackflagged with sport button on. I have been leaving it off.

Timbo_Mint

626 posts

250 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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fioran0 said:
Sadly explaining this and asking for trackside tests fall on deaf ears.

Edited by fioran0 on Wednesday 17th July 13:18
Well they would be deaf wouldn't they? They've been listening to loud cars all day. smile

majordad

Original Poster:

3,630 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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What's a vacuum cap ?

Far Cough

2,481 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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majordad said:
What's a vacuum cap ?
Have a read of this brief explanation :

http://sharkwerks.com/porsche/technical-articles/1...


Lasitha

177 posts

220 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Hi,
I've got a Mallory park TD for this sat, but it has a 95dB static limit. Does anyone have an idea if the vacuum cap mod will bring a 997.1 GT3 to within this limit?

Cheers,

Far Cough

2,481 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Lasitha said:
Hi,
I've got a Mallory park TD for this sat, but it has a 95dB static limit. Does anyone have an idea if the vacuum cap mod will bring a 997.1 GT3 to within this limit?

Cheers,
You`ll be lucky if they police it properly ! We were only scraping in at 98db`s

Lasitha

177 posts

220 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Sh*t. Might try my luck. I rang Javelin and too late to cancel now. They said they might give me credit for another day if it fails.

Any reliable dB iPhone app readers anybody using?

Far Cough

2,481 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Lasitha said:
Sh*t. Might try my luck. I rang Javelin and too late to cancel now. They said they might give me credit for another day if it fails.

Any reliable dB iPhone app readers anybody using?
The only way to get through would be to lie about where your car red lines and hence you will be asked to rev it lower than normal for the test. Although they have probably seen that one a million times before !!!

HokumPokum

2,089 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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95dB is punchy. I think you will fail unless the test was conducted at 5000rpm and even then....

sidsideways

417 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Most useful thread I've come across except.... where to get a vacuum pack in UK?

Far Cough

2,481 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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sidsideways said:
Most useful thread I've come across except.... where to get a vacuum pack in UK?
Do I have to do everything round here !! LOL

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SILICONE-HOSE-INTAKE-VAC...

sidsideways

417 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Thanks mate although you need to sell a few if you are on commission! Had to check my balance first!
Should I get the downward tail pipes as well and again source would oblige?

Lasitha

177 posts

220 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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I'll post back on Sat after i've not got through the noise test.

I downloaded an iphone dB app and will take some measurements this evening.

People have said aircon off, clutch in and vacuum cap on - let's see what it measures.

Note to self, check noise limits first before booking!

sidsideways

417 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Found it. $755 so I'll leave it!