My Durametric arrived....
My Durametric arrived....
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m33ufo

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4,959 posts

260 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Came in the post today and the first thing I do is check for over revs!!!

Phew... Rev Range 1 to 6, zero hits in any range.

Carl_Docklands

15,831 posts

291 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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m33ufo said:
Came in the post today and the first thing I do is check for over revs!!!

Phew... Rev Range 1 to 6, zero hits in any range.
now its your chance to rectify that and drive it like it was stolen wink

sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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m33ufo said:
Came in the post today and the first thing I do is check for over revs!!!

Phew... Rev Range 1 to 6, zero hits in any range.
How old is the car?

Magic919

14,505 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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You can sort out the windows next. Global open and closing on the key is handy in this weather.

m33ufo

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260 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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sidicks said:
How old is the car?
I did copy the info but then unfortunately it then didn't want to paste!

It's end of 2008 (58), 25K miles.

m33ufo

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260 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Magic919 said:
You can sort out the windows next. Global open and closing on the key is handy in this weather.
I need to thoroughly read the manual next because in all honesty I don't know what I'm doing! That sounds a good idea though.

mikem7709

986 posts

241 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Not trying to frighten you but I`d be more concerned by seeing zero in all ranges than some recorded historically. Apparently they can be cleared very easily ?

sidicks

25,218 posts

250 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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mikem7709 said:
Not trying to frighten you but I`d be more concerned by seeing zero in all ranges than some recorded historically. Apparently they can be cleared very easily ?
That's what I wondered - isn't rev range 1 below the redline and well below the rev cut-off?

Seems unlikely that someone never 'fully' revved the car in 25k miles....

Most cars I've seen have thousands of range 1 & 2 incidents!

m33ufo

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260 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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If it had been mine from new then there wouldn't be any hits - unless I'd messed up a change! So, personally, don't don't find it unusual.

m33ufo

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260 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Not sure exactly what range 1 is on a gen2 997 but it's over 7000 revs. I think about 7500??!! That being the case seems very reasonable to me.

f1ashgordon

264 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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I have zero in all ranges too, zero when I bought it 2nd hand and zero since and I've hit the limiter going up from 2nd to 3rd a number of times, albeit briefly.
I've no idea what you need to do to register a reading as I was at least expecting a few in range 1 and 2 based on the Porsche guidelines and as sidicks said, everyone seems to have them.
Just wandering if some ECU's are more tolerant than others.
Either way, a durametric sounds like an investment.

Edited by f1ashgordon on Wednesday 17th July 18:55

m33ufo

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260 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Just been reading through the manual. I'm going to take it to work and have a fiddle so that hopefully I'll become a little more familiar with it smile

Gibbo205

3,572 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Never been driven properly then or the DME ranges erased.

Either way get the bores checked, probably scored like crazy if it's never being opened up. wink

m33ufo

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260 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Gibbo205 said:
Either way get the bores checked, probably scored like crazy if it's never being opened up. wink
Don't put that here...someone will believe you!!!

I can easily see how a PDK would easily get into RR1. My old Spyder just invited it - plant your foot and it was like a roller-coaster ride! For me at least I drive much more sensibly in a manual smile




Gibbo205

3,572 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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m33ufo said:
Don't put that here...someone will believe you!!!

I can easily see how a PDK would easily get into RR1. My old Spyder just invited it - plant your foot and it was like a roller-coaster ride! For me at least I drive much more sensibly in a manual smile
Manuals also easily register range 1 and even 2 when using all the revs in sport mode or if you bounce of the limiter. So it's never being driven to it's full ability or the rev ranges tampered with. Many will tell you these engine once warmed up like to be driven hard. Infact what they hate more than anything is traffic or being driven around in high gears or kept as garage queens.

I'm sure it's ok but to me it would ring alarm bells.

My engine had thousands of ignitions in 1 and 2, now it's even got some in 4 as im remapped with a higher limiter and a month ago Hartech inspected my bores, result was one of the cleanest engine they'd seen, yet it's done 50k miles.

These cars like to be driven and well cooled, keeps them happy, plus regular oil changes. smile

m33ufo

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Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Just not the way I drive them. Unless you're flying around a track don't see the need on the road. Rarely go far beyond 6000 revs and that would be the exception and not the rule. I'm sure there are a whole lot of people who are similar and also quite a few who aren't.

Didn't actually realise it was possible to reset this info - certainly not easily. If it was I'm sure we'd rarely see car with hits in RR 3, 4, 5 and 6 on a dealers forecourt.

I'm going to have another go with the Durametric tomorrow and hopefully get a better idea of how to use it properly - erm, hope I don't come back with more hits than I thought smile

m33ufo

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260 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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The coding options look really useful. Just have to work out what they all mean now but I'm hoping that one will allow me to leave the PCM off when I put the key in the ignition? Hate it that the radio comes on immediately without me pressing a button!!

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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I have never see a car with rr1 clear.

both mine have a quite a few in ranges 1 and 2 of course more so in range 1

so in 25k miles some thing sounds a miss to have zero even in range 1

I would now have to hit the limiter in gear 2 to see if it comes up with any :-)

But I would say it's been reset/cleared to show nothing, what's the running hours etc

Good job you did not buy that GT3 if you stay below 6k lol.

not enjoying the car to the full seems not worth having as changing sub 6k drops you in no mans land.

Porsche have always said use the engines low revs is far worse it seems on them than high revs.

Edited by mrdemon on Thursday 18th July 10:15

m33ufo

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260 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Running hours / average MPH look fine. May get lower as I'm often sat in traffic in Cardiff going nowhere fast!

I still don't quite understand why you'd find it unusual not to be buzzing 7500rpm? Just call me mechanically sympathetic smile

f1ashgordon

264 posts

165 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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I don't necessarily agree with Gibbo205.

As I said in my post, I've no readings in any range, and I've hit the limiter lots of times (out almost every weekend in the Brecon Beacons)..

I've had the DME readout 3x times in the last 3 months at OPC (different OPC than where I bought from), they also went through all previous stored (porsche GB require it) DME info from new, so it's all consistent.

I genuinely wonder what I'd have to do short of wilfully keeping it flat to the floor on the limiter (or fluff a change) to register a reading.
Or maybe my ECU is more tolerant, don't know, but (I can't speak for the 30k before me) once warmed up I drive it like its meant to be driven and up to 7500rpm by ear is easily done; that doesn't even trigger the limiter for me.

To add, I've had the engine stripped, there was no scoring (gen2).

Edited by f1ashgordon on Thursday 18th July 10:21