Engine temp in this weather
Engine temp in this weather
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The Aardvark

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229 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Had a new fan switch fitted 6 weeks back and fans cut in fine at around 92 degrees. However, not unusual to see temp edging 100 degrees when not moving.
I appreciate that the gauge may not be 100% accurate and the current weather could be described as extreme, but what temps are others seeing?
Should I be concerned?

Trevor450

1,936 posts

178 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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I had a new TVR gauge installed just a couple of weeks ago and mine seems to run at about 90 normally. In traffic it goes as high as 95 but the fans manage to keep it under control.

daveparry

988 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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My Chimaera last Saturday was showing just over 100 in traffic but dropped to 80 on M27, I remembered that I had a stick on front number plate lying around so on Sunday I stuck it on the bonnet and removed the plate from the grille. Took a drive up to Surrey and even in the traffic on the A3 it never got over 90, so the plan is to leave it off for the summer and perhaps put it back on for winter when my temp never usually gets up near 80.

JFReturns

3,830 posts

201 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Mins runs between 75 and 85. Creeps up to 90 in traffic at which point the fans come in and bring it back down to 85 within half a minute or so. Never seen 100, i think I would pull over at that temp!

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,466 posts

195 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Mine edges up towards 100 on the gauge sometimes in slow traffic on a hot day, but mine also has an a/c condenser in front of the rad, so airflow is further compromised.

I think it's just a case of getting used to what yours does and watching out for anything that's abnormal for your particular car.

Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Thursday 18th July 16:35

J4CKS

98 posts

164 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Mine is normally at about 80 but can creep up to about 95 in any kind of traffic or town driving. I've been worrying about this as im driving down to Dorset from Leicester tomorrow and hope I don't hit traffic!! I'll have one eye on the road and one on the temp gauge.

REVJDP

31 posts

232 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Mine runs normally at about 88 & fans cut in at about 92. Even having the radiator re-cored last week has not altered the running temp, but fans cut in slightly earlier. I think every car is different you just need to find what is the norm for your car.

TJC46

2,199 posts

236 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Trevor450 said:
I had a new TVR gauge installed just a couple of weeks ago and mine seems to run at about 90 normally. In traffic it goes as high as 95 but the fans manage to keep it under control.
I think this is about the average, although im sure every car is slightly different.

For extra piece of mind a simple solution is to fit a fan overide switch.

As soon as i hit standstill traffic,or a slow crawl along, i just turn on the overide fan switch.

I dont wait for the temp to hit 92 and the fans to come on automatically.

Do it this way, and in most cases keeps the engine temp will hover around or under 90.

If you forget to use the overide, then its no problem,as your fans will come on automatically anyway, and when they then turn off, if your still in traffic, turn on the overide, and keep the fans spinning till your on the move again.


As an added last resort measure before pulling over and stopping, you can also turn the heater and blower on full blast! yikes Not very comfortable, especially in this weather, but it does help in dropping the temp when stuck at a standstill.

I must stress that fitting an overide switch, is just an added precaution, it is not a solution to over heating problems.

My chimaera was fine,most of the time, temp was normal, but would over a few weeks lose coolant. This leak was near impossible to see and after checking all the usual, leaks around hose joints, replace the thermostat, check for leaks around the heater box, make sure there was no air locks etc, etc i decided to remove the rad and have it pressure tested.

There were some very tiny pin holes in the rad,and the water leaked more as the pressure increased.

I had a radiator recon, and no problems at all now.

chris1972

3,597 posts

167 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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TJC46 said:
For extra piece of mind a simple solution is to fit a fan overide switch.

As soon as i hit standstill traffic,or a slow crawl along, i just turn on the overide fan switch.

I dont wait for the temp to hit 92 and the fans to come on automatically.
+1. I do the same. I'm also in the habit of checking my coolant and oil weekly or before every lengthy run.

I will add, that it is also worth checking that both fans are working. I discovered that only one of mine was working properly. This was resolved by cleaning and sealing both fan connectors.

gacksen

680 posts

173 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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with two digital gauges and "working" senders it has shown on the motorway in sitting traffic at outside temp of 37C
102 water temp and 95-100 oil temp. had that condition for almost one hour. once moving water temp goes down to 85-90
and oil stays at around 80.

freeclimb

42 posts

161 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Mine (36 Degrees Celsius outside) sturdy 75 Degrees Celsius in City Traffic.
Maximum 85, when driven hard around the corners.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,466 posts

195 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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One day I'll get around to fitting the two-stage fan controller. Anything that brings the fans on earlier will have the additional benefit of preserving things like the coil and ignition amp as well.

daveparry

988 posts

230 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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seems a tad cool to me!

freeclimb said:
Mine (36 Degrees Celsius outside) sturdy 75 Degrees Celsius in City Traffic.
Maximum 85, when driven hard around the corners.

Discopotatoes

4,101 posts

251 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Mine runs at 83 degrees creeping up to 87 when the fans cut in

QBee

22,493 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Bigger the engine, faster the temp rises.

I would urge everyone, just once in a while, to pop the bonnet when they see the temp gauge over 90 degrees and make sure that both fans are running. They wiring connectors underneath the fans are prone to getting corroded or dirty and stopping the fans from working. They will stop one at a time. If both are not working, check the connectors first then check the otter switch. I had both one fan not working and a broken otter switch a few weeks ago.

Chimaeraman

139 posts

174 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Had the same concern as OP when driving in traffic last week when outside temp was 33 degrees. My 400 was running at about 87 on motorway and then in heavy traffic at about 95 with the fans on. My 'normal' running temp is about 82.

Popped in to my very local TVR specialist and spoke to the mechanic Graeme - I asked him what temp I should expect to see in traffic in the said hot conditions - his immediate answer was just below 100 would be perfectly normal and acceptable.

METHS

2,103 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Check the operation of the fans and the coolant level every so often and (in theory) everything will be fine.

Wouldn't be too worried even if the temps went over 100, most systems are pressurized and will go up to 115-120 without boiling over. Obviously, if it suddenly runs hotter than what you usually see, then there is a problem.

When the coolant pump broke on my Volkswagen (Plastic components scratchchin ) It went to 130 degrees before boiling over and dumping the coolant all over the road. Replaced the pump and refilled the coolant. No damage done. laugh

Edited by METHS on Thursday 25th July 15:35

Chunky Dave

48 posts

171 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Chimaeraman said:
Had the same concern as OP when driving in traffic last week when outside temp was 33 degrees. My 400 was running at about 87 on motorway and then in heavy traffic at about 95 with the fans on. My 'normal' running temp is about 82.

Popped in to my very local TVR specialist and spoke to the mechanic Graeme - I asked him what temp I should expect to see in traffic in the said hot conditions - his immediate answer was just below 100 would be perfectly normal and acceptable.
My 400 chimaera was running at 100 last week in traffic on the A303. Once I got clear of the jam it went back down to 70. My TVR service provider told me that at 100 degrees I should have stopped to let it cool down as engine damage could be the result of running at that sort of temperature. I have an override switch fitted, both fans were running and in the correct direction. I had all that checked out before I took the car to Le Mans.

chris1972

3,597 posts

167 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Chunky Dave said:
My 400 chimaera was running at 100 last week in traffic on the A303. Once I got clear of the jam it went back down to 70. My TVR service provider told me that at 100 degrees I should have stopped to let it cool down as engine damage could be the result of running at that sort of temperature. I have an override switch fitted, both fans were running and in the correct direction. I had all that checked out before I took the car to Le Mans.
Have you checked the hose to the expansion tank? Mine ran warmer than normal and I found that I had crimped the expansion tank hose (as spotted by Sardonicus). Since that point, it remains cooler for longer and the fans come off less. Sometimes that hose gets full off gunge that collects at the bottom of the expansion tank if the coolant system hasn't been flushed for a while. It is also definitely worth checking that both fans are coming on!

As for readings on the TVR gauge, I wouldn't trust them. I've used Blitz's Rover gauge and it shows a completely different reading to my gauge (fans on about 95 and off about 92ish from what I recall). If you look at your gauge in your daily driver it will normally sit around 90 degs for 'normal'. At the end of the day, all of these cars are different and have their own little quirks. As to whether running hot will do any damage, a lot of that could depend entirely on maintenance, coolant, gasket quality and engine condition etc.

hot metal

2,019 posts

223 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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I removed the number plate & it dropped by up to 15 degrees in slowish m/way traffic & now stays under 90 in town