Museum on / near the clyde

[David A]

Long shot request. There may or may not be a museum or similar type of building on or near the Clyde. In said building there may still be (or will have been) some models of ships, fairly detailed models of ships, these may or may not have the model builders name of "Anderson" on them.

Not sure what sort of museum / building it is or where it may be exactly! But there was definitely one once and it definitely had models in built by an Anderson.

So over to PH

[HarryFlatters]

Scottish Maritime Museum?

[Hugo a Gogo]

Transport Museum which was at Kelvin Hall, which isn't far from the Clyde

now at the Riverside Museum which is in Glasgow Harbour area

they've got loads of ship models

[David A]

Next questions that follow on, anybody been recently, got photos, remember seeing anything ! I can phone these places up but trying to narrow it down a bit first!

David

[Hugo a Gogo]

in the old transport museum they had a whole load of ship models, as I said
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Museum_of_Tra... - says here 250 ship models

I haven't been to the new one, so I don't know what they have on display, but they are your best bet

thi doesn't have much info, but an email address etc to find out what exactly is in the collection
http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/cld.html?cid...

Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Friday 19th July 08:30

[Parsnip]

Hugo a Gogo said:

in the old transport museum they had a whole load of ship models, as I said
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Museum_of_Tra... - says here 250 ship models

I haven't been to the new one, so I don't know what they have on display, but they are your best bet

thi doesn't have much info, but an email address etc to find out what exactly is in the collection
http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/cld.html?cid...

Seconded.

Although, the new one doesn't have as much as the old one - it has been childified a bit - still has some cool stuff like McRae's Subary and Obree's washing machine bike, no OTT boat room like the old one had though (and that used to be my favourite bit!)

[awooga]

One of the best free museums in the country!

Car section is dreadful in comparison to what it used to be - in the old museum you could get close-ish to the cars, walk around them, see them from the right angles. Now the stupid buggers have put them above head height on a big ramp so you can't really see them, certainly not into them.

[David A]

Update, here's the pics. Sadly Dad and Uncle David (some time ago) no longer with us.

Edited by David A on Saturday 14th June 19:19

[David A]

The Crack Fox said:

David A, I'm reading between the lines, did your father / uncle make these models, and they're now at the museum? I was there myself on Friday and took a few pics.

Uncle David did, not exactly sure when. I may have seen them as a child but that would have been 30 years ago and don't remember.

I don't know if any are on display or if they're in the vaults/archives/attic there.

[David A]

The Crack Fox said:

Oh. There are loads of models there on display. I did get a couple of iPhone snaps and can post them here when I'm back in the office if that helps?

Would be great, thanks.

[Halmyre]

awooga said:

One of the best free museums in the country!

Car section is dreadful in comparison to what it used to be - in the old museum you could get close-ish to the cars, walk around them, see them from the right angles. Now the stupid buggers have put them above head height on a big ramp so you can't really see them, certainly not into them.

It's a frustrating place for that reason, and I can't be othered by some of the 'preachy' exhibits - after all, if I'm reading a book about apartheid I don't expect a sideways discourse on the Glasgow locomotive industry's involvement in the railway system. Also, the arrangement of the exhibits is a bit haphazard. On the plus side, the conveyer belt of ship models is well done, as each model moves past a screen comes up with information about the ship.

[Neonblau]

Halmyre said:

It's a frustrating place for that reason, and I can't be othered by some of the 'preachy' exhibits - after all, if I'm reading a book about apartheid I don't expect a sideways discourse on the Glasgow locomotive industry's involvement in the railway system. Also, the arrangement of the exhibits is a bit haphazard. On the plus side, the conveyer belt of ship models is well done, as each model moves past a screen comes up with information about the ship.

I'd second that. I'm old enough to remember the original in the old tram building in Albert Drive. In those days every change seemed to make the museum better. The move to Kelvin Hall meant more room but it seemed to lose its way as a proper transport musuem and got a bit dumbed down.

I went to the new RIverside Museum about 6 months ago. It's my first and last visit, I thought it was utter ste. As Halmyre says there's too much "right on" crap and bugger all about transport. Cars stacked on a shelf - WTF? If you're looking for anything meaningful on the tram or railway exhibits forget it - get a book off Amazon.

The cafe - if you can call it that makes MaccyDs look like the Savoy, the shop has zero transport material and the staff looked as pissed off as I did when I left.

It's a shame really - the collection is one of the best, the location is excellent and no doubt a pile of cash has been spent but it comes across as a place that doesn't really know what it's supposed to be staffed by people who can't be arsed.

[Jader1973]

So those of you who haven't been have an idea of what is being complained about.

The ships used to be in cabinets that were from memory about eye level, whereas now:


And as for the "wall of cars"


I get the distinct impression the building was more important than displaying the collection.

[hidetheelephants]

Jader1973 said:

So those of you who haven't been have an idea of what is being complained about.

The ships used to be in cabinets that were from memory about eye level, whereas now:


And as for the "wall of cars"


I get the distinct impression the building was more important than displaying the collection.

We've got a winner! There isn't a hole deep enough to contain the egos of certain architects. It's a shed; it's a nice shed with wiggly bits, but a shed just the same. GCC have enough exhibits to fill a tranport museum 10 times the size, the old site at Kelvinhall was a reasonable size but appeared to have had no money spent on curators, as exhibits had the same damage or missing parts from them when it closed as when I'd visited as a child 30-odd years ago. The marine exhibits alone could fill a museum, and should do; there's so much stuff that's never seen the light of day, for a museum on the banks of the Clyde this is inexplicable.

[MarkwG]

Personally, I thought it was great: the only issues for us were the opening times, which were a bit confusing, & the gift shop which was the usual plastic tat. The use of space meant far more exhibits were available than just the floor space would have allowed, & the shelf system kept them away from sticky fingers - I believe some of them were on loan rather than the museums own stock. The moving ship display was especially well designed, I thought, as was the underground train exhibit, & the roadway through the shops.

The day we went the place was packed out, locals as well as visitors, & everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves. It compares well with many others I've visited across the planet.

[Spitfire2]

Unfortunately - it doesn't compare well with what it replaced (in my opinion).

Cars up high on walls out of sight - poor show.

I was always happy to visit the old one and did many times. I've been to the Riverside Museum twice and can't see any likilihood of a 3rd time.

[Jader1973]

Spitfire2 said:

Unfortunately - it doesn't compare well with what it replaced (in my opinion).

Looks like those of us who remember being taken to the original, and the Kelvin Hall all think the same.