Slightly concerned...
Slightly concerned...
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NiceCupOfTea

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25,586 posts

280 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Driving the S this morning, obviously a warm day. Was running fine, but suddenly became aware that all was not well. Fluctuating idle and also feels a bit lumpy on full and partial throttle. Had a look under the bonnet and all seems well, no obvious pipes off, etc. Anything to look out for? Engine temp is fine, as is oil pressure. It's OK mist of the time, just starts playing up. Still drive able at the mo.

Also, and even more worrying was a smell of burning fibreglass towards the end of my journey - again, engine temp fine and in moving traffic. Had a look around car and all seemed fine. Do they all do this in very warm ambient temperatures? Was OK yesterday in similar weather...

Got to drive round the M25 later in Friday evening rushhour traffic...


S2Mike

3,065 posts

179 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Sounds like maybe an air leakage in the AFM to Plenum hoses. Similar to diagnosis by other gurus on here.
Not liking the smell of hot fibreglass though. Are you sure its not just general smog or blowback from exhausts due to lack of air movement??
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I get the odd whiff of petrol after sitting in traffic for a while then move off a little "spiritedly" hoping its just a little unburned fuel blowing out the exhausts.

Edited by S2Mike on Friday 19th July 14:42

NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,586 posts

280 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Thanks Mike, I did look round those hoses and they seem fine, they're braided on mine and the jubilee clips are tight. It's not doing it all the time.

I too am worried about the burning smell - no idea if it's from under the bonnet or the exhausts, couldn't tell. Like I say, the car wasn't running that hot. frown

Scoobimax

1,892 posts

230 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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I had throttle pot issues previously displaying similar symptoms (not the burning fibreglass though), luckily it was just a connector issue cured by a technical wiggle of the connector.

Top Gear TVR

2,251 posts

183 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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I smell fuel when doing the spirited thing, this is more so since i gave up smoking and can now smell things again!

WRT fibre glass, I would have a damn good look around the exhaust - to body distances, perhaps even get up on the ramps at a local garage somewhere.

Carry an extinguisher until you get rid of it!.

GadgeS3C

4,727 posts

193 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Top Gear TVR said:
Carry an extinguisher until you get rid of it!.
Yup - but get a decent size one - the small ones are a waste of time & money.

But I hope you never need one!

Barry S1

1,709 posts

218 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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And don't keep it in the boot like me
:-)

Top Gear TVR

2,251 posts

183 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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The smell i meant btw

NiceCupOfTea

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25,586 posts

280 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Thanks chaps.

I always carry an extinguisher (in the cabin).

I got home in the end, but a fairly fraught journey. I started the car and it smelt of burning within 5 minutes. Had a good poke round the car, no smell under the bonnet or near the exhausts, in fact it seemed to be in the cabin; then it hit me, for it to smell that quickly from cold it's got to be electrical rather than heat related. Turned off all non-essential electrics and the smell seemed to dissipate. Couldn't pin it down precisely, didn't seem to be coming from either footwell/dash, but can't see where else...

Drove home gradually switching things on but although I thought I smelled it faintly a couple of times, it didn't really come back. Weird. Suspects were fan override switch, blower control, radio, and the ciggie lighter extension/phone charger.

So that gives me a nice intermittent problem to sort rolleyes

The idle is definitely not right, on a trailing throttle or braking up to lights it dips and nearly stalls, but doesn't. On the throttle it seems fine and hard acceleration wasn't a problem. Reminds me of vac/boost leak on turbo cars...

Odd that both problems manifested themselves today but I don't suspect that they're related.

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Yellow connector?

NiceCupOfTea

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25,586 posts

280 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Did occur to me - although I think it has been replaced at some stage. When my immobiliser was fitted Carl commented that it looked like it could do with resoldering.

Alan461

853 posts

160 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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There was a similar idle fault on mine which cleared up after cleaning out the idle control valve.
Low cost fix if it does any good.

QBee

22,439 posts

173 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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If it was a Chimaera, it could be the throttle position sensor, or (in the case of my car), the idle control stepper motor starting to fail when hot. Mine idled fine when cold, but I had that trailing throttle issue and then general hot stalling after I decatted it

NiceCupOfTea

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25,586 posts

280 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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QBee said:
If it was a Chimaera, it could be the throttle position sensor, or (in the case of my car), the idle control stepper motor starting to fail when hot. Mine idled fine when cold, but I had that trailing throttle issue and then general hot stalling after I decatted it
Is the TPS something that would affect an S?

Had a good hunt behind the dash today but nothing look melted or smelt bad. Will have to keep an eye (nose?) out - extinguisher at the ready!

Roy C

4,213 posts

313 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Is the TPS something that would affect an S?
http://www.tvrsseries.com/throttlepot/throttlepot....

NiceCupOfTea

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25,586 posts

280 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Brill, will check it out and clean out the ICV as well.

Niiige

640 posts

198 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Funnily enough mine showed exactly the same symptoms yesterday.it had been parked in the sun all day and after about 20miles it started hesitating under acceleration.

Checked today, wiggled wires and generally made sure nothing was loose. Stuck some STP injector cleaner in and set off for an Italian tune - wondering what the problem was.

It had a milder version of the symptoms - hiccoughs really for about 4 miles and then stopped and ran perfectly for the next 10 miles - with me driving in what I believe lawyers would describe as a "spirited manner".

Just read the throttle body article - could be my issue. This forum is brilliant isn't it ! Now I know what to look for and can do soe more fiddling tomorrow !!

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Did occur to me - although I think it has been replaced at some stage.
Pull it a part and have a look. Mine looked perfect on the out side but was burned to a crisp on the inside.



Edited by v8s4me on Saturday 20th July 22:19

NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,586 posts

280 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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Mine's been soldered up and heatshrink sleeved - would need the attention of somebody more competent at soldering than I!

Mr Clifford

816 posts

256 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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v8s4me said:
Pull it a part and have a look. Mine looked perfect on the out side but was burned to a crisp on the inside.



Edited by v8s4me on Saturday 20th July 22:19
I had one of these, first noticed the smell before it conked out a week later !