Breathalyser machines
Discussion
Following on from SC's post about the morning after I'm getting ever more paranoid about the morning after thing. Aside from giving up alchohol altogether there is little way to totally sure the next day.
Hence, to err on the safe side is there an accurate breathalyser machine that the public can buy? i.e. not a toy/gimick one but one that you can trust?
Dave.
p.s. No not condoning trying anything or pushing to limits or any of that. Just super paranoid and careful.
Hence, to err on the safe side is there an accurate breathalyser machine that the public can buy? i.e. not a toy/gimick one but one that you can trust?
Dave.
p.s. No not condoning trying anything or pushing to limits or any of that. Just super paranoid and careful.
There are several 'gimicks' but to be accurate...the machine..costs plenty of £££
I would err on the side of caution..ie don't drink before driving...at all..
Or if you have a heavy session the night before...have at least 6-8 hours before driving...and drink plenty of water before you go to bed...
Street
I would err on the side of caution..ie don't drink before driving...at all..
Or if you have a heavy session the night before...have at least 6-8 hours before driving...and drink plenty of water before you go to bed...
Street
Streetcop said:
There are several 'gimicks' but to be accurate...the machine..costs plenty of £££
I would err on the side of caution..ie don't drink before driving...at all..
Or if you have a heavy session the night before...have at least 6-8 hours before driving...and drink plenty of water before you go to bed...
Street
Maybe 16 - 18 hours is better, following the standard decay rates, which are only a guideline, no decay for up to six hours then one unit per hour.
10 units in a session starting at 20.00 would mean 16 hours later, i.e. midday the following day.
Streetcop said:
There are several 'gimicks' but to be accurate...the machine..costs plenty of £££
I would err on the side of caution..ie don't drink before driving...at all..
Or if you have a heavy session the night before...have at least 6-8 hours before driving...and drink plenty of water before you go to bed...
Street
Ah but SC - my paranioa arises from the fact even 6-8 hrs sleep may not be enough! I never drink before driving, its the day after thing that worries me.
The machine itself may cost £££ but its probably still a damn sight less than year off driving and no job etc etc etc
OK, understand the point about leaving enough time, even perhaps a day and a night (morning after the morning after!)
BUT, humour me, for I am paranoid. There is still a chance, albeit tiny that you could still have some stuff running round your veins. Hence the need to 100% sure. Theres no harm.
So if anyone can reccomend a machine as per point 1..
BUT, humour me, for I am paranoid. There is still a chance, albeit tiny that you could still have some stuff running round your veins. Hence the need to 100% sure. Theres no harm.
So if anyone can reccomend a machine as per point 1..
The only machines (as far as I am aware) that would be accurate enough are the susbtantive devices as used in Police stations.
These are calibrated every seven months (in my Force), and hold type approval, much like speed enforcement equipment (I know, there's a whole argument about the accuracy of those devices...).
The screening devices are just that - they give and indication that you may be over the limit. It is the substantive device that gives the evidential "yay" or "nay".
That said, I know that at our local airport they have bought a Lion screening device for use on their staff, following the introduction of the new legislation. They are happy to, in effect, use this as a "substantive" device for internal discipline proceedings.
The only suppliers I am aware of in the UK are Lion and Drager. Whether they would supply you is another matter.
Then there is the problem of correct calibration, records of caluibration, etc. It really is a minefield for the "public" to try and rely on these devices, and then to use it as a defence if it all goes wrong for them, ie whether it would be admissibile or not to say you had used your own device and were OK when you checked yourself.
In any event, if you can get hold of a screening device, you're going to be looking at £4-500 for an "approved" device.
These are calibrated every seven months (in my Force), and hold type approval, much like speed enforcement equipment (I know, there's a whole argument about the accuracy of those devices...).
The screening devices are just that - they give and indication that you may be over the limit. It is the substantive device that gives the evidential "yay" or "nay".
That said, I know that at our local airport they have bought a Lion screening device for use on their staff, following the introduction of the new legislation. They are happy to, in effect, use this as a "substantive" device for internal discipline proceedings.
The only suppliers I am aware of in the UK are Lion and Drager. Whether they would supply you is another matter.
Then there is the problem of correct calibration, records of caluibration, etc. It really is a minefield for the "public" to try and rely on these devices, and then to use it as a defence if it all goes wrong for them, ie whether it would be admissibile or not to say you had used your own device and were OK when you checked yourself.
In any event, if you can get hold of a screening device, you're going to be looking at £4-500 for an "approved" device.
since a £3.99 or a £99.99 machine will give an inaccurate result, stick with the cheaper one.
TBH you should know if you are ok to drive the following day (if you are honest with yourself). 2-3 pints and you are probably ok, a 8-10 pint session followed by "stickies" and it's best to let someone else drive...
TBH you should know if you are ok to drive the following day (if you are honest with yourself). 2-3 pints and you are probably ok, a 8-10 pint session followed by "stickies" and it's best to let someone else drive...
Interestingly in Sweden it is *extremely* common to have an inexpensive breath alcohol meter...precisely for the "morning after" scenario.
I have been considering one, myself.
I have the choice of walking, cycling or driving to work...and, clearly, could avoid driving if necessary.
It don't feel that the accuracy is much of a problem. If the device says you are *anywhere near* the limit its time to walk...
I have been considering one, myself.
I have the choice of walking, cycling or driving to work...and, clearly, could avoid driving if necessary.
It don't feel that the accuracy is much of a problem. If the device says you are *anywhere near* the limit its time to walk...
David A said:
But where can these devices be obtained??
Try these too:
www.breathalysers.co.uk/
www.tesco.com/electrical/Browse.asp?type=Item&typeid=7045148
www.premierdirect.co.uk/start.htm
http://members.lycos.co.uk/curmudgeon/feedback.html
www.adultsx.co.uk/htm/insider/revealed/revealed/121009.shtml
So would the general consensus be that this device would tell you if you Zero or some alchohol in you accurately. www.premierdirect.co.uk/roadtest.htm
The key thing being on the morning after test, for me, it should be down to zero, I don't care if the reading is above zero if it is its too much to risk. But if a device can definitivly say there is zero in you then i'd be happy - mainly since you'd only have to wait a few hours to get it to zero. Hope that makes sense.
Dave
The key thing being on the morning after test, for me, it should be down to zero, I don't care if the reading is above zero if it is its too much to risk. But if a device can definitivly say there is zero in you then i'd be happy - mainly since you'd only have to wait a few hours to get it to zero. Hope that makes sense.
Dave
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