Cerbera speed six.......help
Cerbera speed six.......help
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Mo66

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16 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Hi guys

After loads Of advice n guidance! My cerbera speed six broke down on me last Friday . First of all you will have to excuse me as I'm not technical with cars just know how to drive my beloved cerbera . Always loved tvrs and decided sod it you only live once so purchased the cerbera speed six last july. its the most fantastic car going and always been a fav of mine.
It had an engine rebuild in 2005 from tvr power of Coventry. Anyhow the tension on the chain went causing the chain to damage the pistons and all the other bits that it damages with it. My garage guy who I trust n have know for many years spoke to tvr and they said £2500 to fix it. I do not have the funds so am going to speak to my bank for loan to get it fixed( hopefully they say yes if not ..... That's life no point in worrying about it life's too short)
I'm Looking to see if there's anybody out there who might take it on as a project or do you think I'm better off taking it to tvr to get it done! I'm waiting for all the technical jargon from my mechanic then ill post on here so people can see what needs doing. Either way the car will get done just don't know when but will not ever sell it as its been my dream car.

Hope you guys can offer some good advice
Cheers
Mo

Edited by jeremyc on Wednesday 24th July 07:10

ukkid35

6,392 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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First of all, bad luck.

Secondly, your post is completely devoid of detail of the actual damage which is critical. If your current trusted garage has not given you full details of the damage and remedial work needed, then you would be unwise handing them a blank cheque (I doubt they've guaranteed a max bill of £2.5k)

Thirdly, you are best off having the engine regularly serviced by the rebuilder if you want to stand a chance of having them stand by their work. TVR Power do have a good reputation, but if it's eight years since they've seen your engine then I wouldn't blame them for washing their hands.

Mo66

Original Poster:

16 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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The car was seen by tvr power in 2009 after doing the engine rebuild like I've said I only got the car last year. As for you saying if they haven't seen the engine you wouldn't blame them for washing their hands off it.....sorry mate don't agree with you ! My garage will be giving me all the technical stuff that needs doing so not worried one bit about that.
I'm after advice not criticism

ridds

8,366 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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8 years warranty?

1 inspection in 2009?

Pretty fair for Dom to not be overly forthcoming with free repairs there in my eyes.

What do you mean by project? Do you want someone to fix it for you for free with you buying the parts? Pretty sure that's not going to happen either.

Mo66

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16 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Haven't got a clue if there's warranty or not ! I'm new to all this . Of course I don't expect someone to do it for free I'm seeing if there's someone out there that would fancy doing it as a project with me getting parts or that person getting the parts.

natben

2,748 posts

255 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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I feel your pain, why not get a interest free credit card some do 27months and get the car to TVR Power to repair. These guys know what they are doing. However I would have thought it would be difficult to diagnose without having the car in front of them so it could be more£££.

My advise would be to get it to them and get them to repair it at least then you will be able to enjoy it and if you do decide to sell it one day the fact the work was done by TVR Power will make your car far more attractive to a buyer than someone that that the TVR community haven't heard off or respect.

George

Mo66

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16 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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George appreciate your advice mate. Sounds like good advice. Got mate who's in the tvr club he's gonna put the word out with his mates and who knows..!!!
Either way ill get it fixed just when that will be not sure yet. One thing is though I won't be selling it , it's my fav car and always has been

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

164 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Mo66 said:
Haven't got a clue if there's warranty or not ! I'm new to all this . Of course I don't expect someone to do it for free I'm seeing if there's someone out there that would fancy doing it as a project with me getting parts or that person getting the parts.
To be clear - you're open to selling the car as-is? If so, some more information on the rest of the car would be useful. Is it a heap, is it a concours example but for the dud engine, or is it average. Year, colour scheme, milage, service and spend history, milage, chassis condition etc etc.

For what it's worth, a good garage is a great thing to have but these engines are quite specialised, and although it's by no means impossible to learn how to rebuild one successfully, it'll be cheaper and (much) lower risk having it done by one of the specialists who know the Speed Six engine like the back of their hands.


ukkid35

6,392 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Mo66 said:
The car was seen by tvr power in 2009 after doing the engine rebuild like I've said I only got the car last year. As for you saying if they haven't seen the engine you wouldn't blame them for washing their hands off it.....sorry mate don't agree with you ! My garage will be giving me all the technical stuff that needs doing so not worried one bit about that.
I'm after advice not criticism
It is standard practice for a rebuilder to require all servicing to be done in-house. Although that sounds highly restrictive, I really don't blame them. After all, we all know that service items are regularly forgotten/omitted/deliberately ignored - so why should the rebuilder suffer the financial consequences for someone else's negligence?

I do virtually all my own work, so this is entirely hypothetical to me.

My original point stands - your current garage has given no pertinent details whatsoever.

Mo66

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16 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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I'm not selling the car I'm keeping it. I was just after the best advice of what to do as like I said I'm new to this. Pleased that you have the knowledge to fix your own car I'm not into cars but hey that's what makes the world go round !

ridds

8,366 posts

268 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Power is your best option. The Six can be a finicky beast and if it's done additional damage in the timing case then they will be able to spot it.

Getting someone to do it as a project will end in tears I can assure you, will take forever and you'll always worry that it might pop on you.

If your going to keep it forever spend the cash and get it fixed properly.

Mo66

Original Poster:

16 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Cheers for your advice . Think tvr power sounds like the best bet. Yeah, I intend to keep the car . It's just an awesome car to drive love it.

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

164 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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That's a good move.

Sorry I got confused about ypur intentions for the car with project talk and other people buying parts - I'd assumed you were implying you'd sell it.

There's nothing to be ashamed of if DIY work isn't your thing, however it does mean that your wallet is out of your pocket more often in general but particularly with performance cars such as TVRs.

Best of luck to you, TVR Power will see you right. Stick around here though. We're a nice bunch really smile

Mo66

Original Poster:

16 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Lol, yeah DIY on cars isn't my thing. Just thought with these classic cars there might of been an enthusiastic that would love to do it so give that person the money instead of these big companies. Never been into fixing them art is my thing that's why I love the cerbera , it's the shape,style of it and course that noise of the tvr....
Definitely will stick around I'm a Tauren never give up !

Cheers guys

ukkid35

6,392 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Mo66 said:
there might of been an enthusiastic that would love to do it so give that person the money instead of these big companies.
That's what TVR Power is: a small indy staffed by ex TVR employees who want to keep these cars running, and have done more than most to invest in their longevity, especially for speed six owners.

PuffsBack

2,442 posts

249 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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1) Sounds more than £2500 worth of damage to me

2) 8 years since the rebuild is more than long enough for poor servicing to cause issues

3) Don't trust anyone no matter how good they are to work on the engine. The Speed 6 does not tolerate abuse and needs someone who knows the engine to look after it and set it up properly. Basically if you give it someone other than Power or Str8six your rolling the dice.

4) Once fixed only have it serviced by a Good TVR Specialist.

Edited by PuffsBack on Thursday 25th July 12:09

ridds

8,366 posts

268 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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PuffsBack said:
1) Sounds more than £2500 worth of damage to me

2) 8 years since the rebuild is more than long enough for poor servicing to cause issues

3) Don't trust anyone no matter how good they are to work on the engine. The Speed 6 does not tolerate abuse and needs someone who knows the engine to look after it and set it up properly. Basically if you give it to Power or Str8six your rolling the dice.

4) Once fixed only have it serviced by a Good TVR Specialist.
Agree, new chains, guides, oil pump, numerous valves, replace all valve guides as thy're probably broken from the failure or worn. Piston or 2 maybe?

Gonna be £5k after removal and re-fitment thrown in as well. frown