Discounts from Porsche dealers
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As a newby I am about to venture into Cayman ownership. I've had a Caterham and a Merc for a number of years and now plan to run just one car, hence the Cayman.
I'm looking at 2 year old 2.9PDK's and my assessment is that they are on average £3K more expensive through an official Porsche dealer than they are through independents.
My question is, how much can you negotiate off the windscreen price at the official dealers?
I'm looking at 2 year old 2.9PDK's and my assessment is that they are on average £3K more expensive through an official Porsche dealer than they are through independents.
My question is, how much can you negotiate off the windscreen price at the official dealers?
sidicks said:
gda_scooby said:
And based on current discussions in the 997 turbo engine thread, you have to wonder how good that warranty actually is...
The warranty is the best that's out there!f1ashgordon said:
Warranty's been well worth it for me, covered that cost in the first 3 months on gen2 997.
I never understand why people say this sort of thing like it's a positive. My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
REALIST123 said:
I never understand why people say this sort of thing like it's a positive.
My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
Well I could look at it as a negative, but that would seem churlish. It's an insurance product, sometimes s@@t happens and in my case I'm glad I was insured and the product itself worked very well. My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
I bought from OPC, the warranty was part and parcel, so I had little choice, but when it did go wrong, I got brand new caymans and boxters to drive and a no hassle repair. So it brought plenty, the cost of repair was over £10k.
I would also add that the main specialists didn't have the car I wanted at the time and I'd be just as happy to have bought from them and not have the Porsche warranty, but I didn't, so could only comment as above.
REALIST123 said:
I never understand why people say this sort of thing like it's a positive.
My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
You can say that about any insurance product though. Do you not buy contents insurance because you can't remember the last time someone got burgled or building insurance because your house has never burnt down in the past?My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
jasonfazack said:
All useful feedback, but back to my original question, how much can you negotiate off the sticker price?
Not a huge amount as I said but it all depends on things like how long they have had it, whether they are on target sales wise etc. if you can't afford the sticker price by some margin don't bother. If you want it create three figures -
The price you would be delighted with
The price you would pay
The price you would walk away at
Start at the delighted price and work your way towards walk away. Simple well worn negotiation technique
That's the best advice you will get on a thread like this. If you are expecting people to say 10% etc then you will be disappointed as that will all be finger in the air bulls
t REALIST123 said:
I never understand why people say this sort of thing like it's a positive.
My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
You appear not to understand the nature of an insurance policy!!!My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
sidicks said:
REALIST123 said:
I never understand why people say this sort of thing like it's a positive.
My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
You appear not to understand the nature of an insurance policy!!!My 997.1 is coming up to 6 years old, and I've owned from new. In that period all it's needed, apart from scheduled servicing and oil changes yearly, is a new horn. How stupid I would have looked if I'd paid £5K + for a warranty.
Unless the car is doing very high mileage, and has or is being thrashed, I don't think the warranty brings much.
The earlier comparison to house insurance is useful to illustrate my point. I pay less than £300 per year for cover of up to £1M on buildings and well over £100K of contents. The risk of a claim is outside of my control, in the main.
Over £1000 to insure against a possible claim, worst case scenario, of say £10K, seems some what less value, especially when the risk is within my ability to control.
REALIST123 said:
Oh yes I do and I also know how to balance cost against risk.
The earlier comparison to house insurance is useful to illustrate my point. I pay less than £300 per year for cover of up to £1M on buildings and well over £100K of contents. The risk of a claim is outside of my control, in the main.
The earlier comparison to house insurance is useful to illustrate my point. I pay less than £300 per year for cover of up to £1M on buildings and well over £100K of contents. The risk of a claim is outside of my control, in the main.
And the probability of a claim is miniscule.
REALIST123 said:
Over £1000 to insure against a possible claim, worst case scenario, of say £10K, seems some what less value, especially when the risk is within my ability to control.
But the claim frequency is higher.And you don't have total control either.
sidicks said:
But the claim frequency is higher.
And you don't have total control either.
It is not about number of claims, it is about the value of claims and also the amount paid out as a ratio of the initial claim value And you don't have total control either.
If anyone believes a warranty or insurance company has anyone else´s interest apart from their own then they need a quick reality check.
Rob
sidicks said:
REALIST123 said:
Oh yes I do and I also know how to balance cost against risk.
The earlier comparison to house insurance is useful to illustrate my point. I pay less than £300 per year for cover of up to £1M on buildings and well over £100K of contents. The risk of a claim is outside of my control, in the main.
The earlier comparison to house insurance is useful to illustrate my point. I pay less than £300 per year for cover of up to £1M on buildings and well over £100K of contents. The risk of a claim is outside of my control, in the main.
And the probability of a claim is miniscule.
REALIST123 said:
Over £1000 to insure against a possible claim, worst case scenario, of say £10K, seems some what less value, especially when the risk is within my ability to control.
But the claim frequency is higher.And you don't have total control either.
And I never said I have total control, if by that you mean eliminating the risk altogether. I do have the ability to lower the risk though, significantly, and more than I am able to in terms of house and contents insurance.
Anyway, what discount can the OP hope for?
jasonfazack said:
All useful feedback, but back to my original question, how much can you negotiate off the sticker price?
I got £1k off a 30k Cayman and got a few bits and pieces thrown in. That was 4 years ago though. Some people are better at negotiating than I am (I'm crap at it when it comes to cars), others have got more than that off.If the car is more expensive than that, I'd expect perhaps £2k off?
I wish I could help definitively becuase 3 weeks ago I was about to negotiate on a £49k 997.2 at my OPC but I bought privately (with OPC warranty) in the end. I asked the sales guy if there was any negotiation (it had been for sale a few weeks), and as we were a few days away from month end (and quarter end) he said he would be "looking at the figures very carefully". So try yo wait a couple of days before month end and in particular end of June/Sep/Dec/March! I've also heard (but can't confirm) that if you go too hard they will deduct 1k but reduce the warranty to 1 year, so no difference really.
The other points about good customer service must be considered too. I sell specialist printing equipment for a living and if I get turned over on price-matching/competing with some clown operating a box-shifting web site from a laptop on the kitchen table, then when that machine inevitably goes wrong, I'm less inclined to help (with loan unit etc) if there's nothing in the pot. Even OPCs have to make a living!
Good luck anyway!
The other points about good customer service must be considered too. I sell specialist printing equipment for a living and if I get turned over on price-matching/competing with some clown operating a box-shifting web site from a laptop on the kitchen table, then when that machine inevitably goes wrong, I'm less inclined to help (with loan unit etc) if there's nothing in the pot. Even OPCs have to make a living!
Good luck anyway!
Edited by WindyMiller67 on Wednesday 24th July 20:26
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