Tornado / glider a bit close
Tornado / glider a bit close
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FiF

Original Poster:

48,652 posts

280 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Possibly a pearoast, not seen this before, apologies for WAil link.

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TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Climbed 50 feet? Result! hehe

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

213 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Does the Daily Wail writer seriously believe that the Tornado carried out a manoeuvre like that, and that the 'updraft' caused the glider to climb by 50ft?


Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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250' inverted dive what a load of ship!

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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eh? that's gotta be ball-cocks surely? Why risk a low level (250' = impossible surely) massive negative G maneuver rather than just go a bit left or a bit right??

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

220 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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A quick bit of maths suggests that would be a -133g maneuver!

Hmmm....

Edited by SlipStream77 on Friday 26th July 20:53

GGibbo

173 posts

205 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Amazing as the mighty fin is, I think this is the most laughable piece of journalistic claptrap I've ever read. What worries me is whether this amount of 'flex' is applied to writing about any technical/specialist subject.

Eta I'm sure someone got hold of the airport report and extrapolated this nonsense from it.

FiF

Original Poster:

48,652 posts

280 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Glad everybody else sees it this way. Whenever have read or watched a report on something that I know the ins and outs of never cease to wonder how they get away with writing tosh like they do.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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I saw a similar infographic in the Mirror, same 180 deg flip which I guess was lost in traslation somewhere.

Hilts

4,684 posts

311 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Impressive skillz.

brenflys777

2,680 posts

206 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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This is the same paper that had a story about an A380 door coming open in flight, to prove it they showed the red door open light... Or the cabin crew inter phone for those who can use google smile


Edited by brenflys777 on Friday 26th July 20:45

jjones

4,488 posts

222 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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head on both aircraft turn right.

also glider has "right of way" over the tornado in theory.


ninja-lewis

5,407 posts

219 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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GGibbo said:
Eta I'm sure someone got hold of the airport report and extrapolated this nonsense from it.
http://www.airproxboard.org.uk/docs/423/20130619-2013.06Reports.pdf

Tornado pilot told the Airprox Board that "he bunted and passed 100ft below". In slight fairness, most of the top google results for 'bunt' basically describe an outside loop.

That said any semi-literate reader of the Airprox Board report would've clearly understood that one aircraft simply passed beneath the other though prompt changes in attitude by both pilots.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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ninja-lewis said:
That said any semi-literate reader of the Airprox Board report would've clearly understood that one aircraft simply passed beneath the other though prompt changes in attitude by both pilots.
And that at 250 feet altitude, you have to make a tighter than 125 radius turn to avoid hitting the ground, which at even only a couple of hundred knots is going to be somewhat difficult!

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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jjones said:
head on both aircraft turn right.

also glider has "right of way" over the tornado in theory.
As has been quoted above [http://www.airproxboard.org.uk/docs/423/20130619-2013.06Reports.pdf] the wail is somewhat inaccurate in it's diagrammatic description!

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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SlipStream77 said:
A quick bit of maths suggests that would be a -133g maneuver!

Hmmm....
F35b no problemo...... wink

MulsanneKinky

268 posts

169 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Cough, cough...! Cough...[BULLst!!!]

nick heppinstall

9,069 posts

309 months

Friday 26th July 2013
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Tornado pilot Maverik. Mib Goose ?

fatboy b

9,665 posts

245 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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nick heppinstall said:
Tornado pilot Maverik. Mib Goose ?
Indeed. I wonder if he flipped the glider pilot the bird too hehe

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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Good job he didn't encounter a formation transit by the Red Arrows eek

Gliders can be very difficult to see. How many carry transponders for TCAS conspicuity?