The next big thing ?
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dtmpower

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3,972 posts

274 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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Given I have missed the boat with the e30 m3 and the Lancia Delta Integrale.

What's your opinion in the next big thing in 80s sports saloon cars in terms of popularity and rarity / inflation of prices ?

Mercedes 190 ?


V8 FOU

3,023 posts

176 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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Merc 190 Cosworth - much underrated. Also Alpine GTA Turbo - silly cheap for a French 911!
BMW 635i still so cheap, even in M format. E28 M535?

williamp

20,381 posts

302 months

Saturday 27th July 2013
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well its impossible to answer in full of course, but it usually a combination of the unloved, forgotten and those who were young at the time remembering cars they saw around at the time.

So, I'd say the Xj220 finally getting the recognition it deserved (is there any other car which can do 213mph, hold the outright road car record at the 'ring for 9 years, with an engine from a group C Le Mans racer, and the Xj220 itself was raced at Le mans and won its class (yes it DID, ACO...), for so little?)

The earliest survivor, chassis 002 sold this week for....£72,000.

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auctions/24-07-201...

Currently there is a Mk1 escort for sale £65k....

Others I would include are from the 80s now as the 70s have probably all been recognised now. So I'd say hot hatches like 205GTI, Mk2 Golf GTi, and others like the 944 Turbo, 928. The aston V8 will start to emulate its cousins from the 60s.

The F308 (magnum) and possibly trans am's, but only in black (KITT)
Delorean.

I do think in another 10 years those who had the highly modded shopping cars from the 90s and 00's will have the money to relive their youth. So Novas, Imprezzas et al with big stereos will start to become popular

You might also want to look at what China are buying. have they discovered the 911 yet? If so, they could be buying and shipping them out, so demand will outstrip supply and prices will rise

Mind you, legislation might mean in 20 years time we're not even allowed to read about those nasty, planet killing combustion engine vehicles anymore, nevermind drive them!

benjj

6,787 posts

192 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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As soon as I've got the free dosh I'll be jumping into an E34 M5.

Yertis

19,707 posts

295 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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After reading that Capri vs 944 thread I'm looking at 944s and 968s...

16VJay

236 posts

248 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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OP, why do you think you've missed the boat with the integrale?

squirejo

802 posts

272 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Honda nsx
Renault 5 gt turbo

Classic mini and 911 already bonkers. 68 cooper s sold at auction for 31k last week.

Anything analogue, internationally recognised and sought after, anything being chewed up for historic racing (significant 'good wood effect')

Declared interest- I own them.

Porsche Carrera Gt at big bucks end of scale is where I would put money were I to have 250k seeking a home.

Factory original, special imprezza versions worth focus.

Yertis

19,707 posts

295 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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BMW 840/850 is another one I think.

dartissimus

954 posts

203 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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1980's fast & still cheap ? Rover Vitesse, Sunbeam Lotus, Lotus Carlton, XR3 turbo, Sierra Cosworth.
They're all dull cars with hotted up engines, badly made but in large quanties and down to a price.
I'd vote for the original Quattro; fast, in its day and innovative in design, a gamechanger unlike the BMWs and Porsches, which are just the same as they've always been but a little bit better with each sucessive model.

tbc

3,017 posts

204 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Dacia Duster Black

you heard it here first


12v3pot

5,135 posts

164 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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The 4-cylinder 8-valve Mercedes 190s are still cheap and plentiful - they'll be like classic stalwarts without ever being hugely valuable. But the 16V models started going up about 3yrs ago. But they are so widely available I don't think they're destined for E30 M3 levels (ever).

NSX prices have also firmed up. rare when new and moreso now (exports of the later facelift models to Hong Kong, plus very easily written off). None around for under £20k (not even automatics). I think they're a good bet (if you have one!)

smiffy220

181 posts

179 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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tbc said:
Dacia Duster Black

you heard it here first
And last I hope!! smile

Upatdawn

2,202 posts

177 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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BMW 635csi lightweight

yummy

Upatdawn

2,202 posts

177 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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what was it?

my mate picked me up in his birds dads BMW, 2 seater, rag top, like being strapped to a scud missile, but dont know what model it was, this was about 1984/85

HustleRussell

26,487 posts

189 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Series 1 Lotus Elise. They certainly won't lose you money, and in the longer term I can see them going up.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

266 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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HustleRussell said:
Series 1 Lotus Elise. They certainly won't lose you money, and in the longer term I can see them going up.
Agree with this. I think the next big movers will be 90s cars, particularly Elises and Griffiths

928 has to start appreciating in value soon too

refoman2

266 posts

220 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Mitsubishi Starion (heres hoping anyway lol)

irocfan

48,874 posts

219 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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williamp said:
... possibly trans am's, but only in black (KITT)...
I hope you're excluding the earlier T/As from this... the below is the daddy <drool>
http://www.prestigemotorcar.com/web/used/Pontiac-T...

V8 FOU

3,023 posts

176 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Upatdawn said:
BMW 635csi lightweight


yummy
eh? Never was one AFAIK. Unless you count the race cars...

M635 are beginning to rise far away from "ordinary" 635csi's

Gruber

6,313 posts

243 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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V8 FOU said:
Upatdawn said:
BMW 635csi lightweight


yummy
eh? Never was one AFAIK. Unless you count the race cars...

M635 are beginning to rise far away from "ordinary" 635csi's
No such thing as a lightweight - not from the factory anyway.

A good M635 is double the price of the equivalent non-M version. Approx £10k for a minty 635 these days and £20k+ for the M version.

I'm not sure I see either of these rising sigificantly in the short to medium term. They had a big jump a couple of years ago and now seem to have settled.