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Just thought I'd share what proved to be an amazing drive over to the Silverstone Classic this morning.
On that lovely fast winding A413 road from Aylesbury to Buckingham a 280hp supercharged Frontline MGB GT caught me napping.
http://www.dep-o.co.uk/features/frontline-mg-le50/
Now I'm not endorsing this type of behaviour but this was just too tempting, so I went off in pursuit.
When I looked in my mirror a silver Ferrari 250GT SWB was chasing me
Considering it's £??? million value it was a delight to see the driver was piloting it just as Enzo had intended.
http://rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1057444
The TVR pulled away from that old Ferrari, but the Frontline was easily the equal of the Chimaera, I stayed with it until the screams of protest from my wife eventually stopped pay
It was a moment that'll stay will me forever
On that lovely fast winding A413 road from Aylesbury to Buckingham a 280hp supercharged Frontline MGB GT caught me napping.
http://www.dep-o.co.uk/features/frontline-mg-le50/
Now I'm not endorsing this type of behaviour but this was just too tempting, so I went off in pursuit.
When I looked in my mirror a silver Ferrari 250GT SWB was chasing me
Considering it's £??? million value it was a delight to see the driver was piloting it just as Enzo had intended.
http://rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1057444
The TVR pulled away from that old Ferrari, but the Frontline was easily the equal of the Chimaera, I stayed with it until the screams of protest from my wife eventually stopped pay
It was a moment that'll stay will me forever
ChimpOnGas said:
Just thought I'd share what proved to be an amazing drive over to the Silverstone Classic this morning.
On that lovely fast winding A413 road from Aylesbury to Buckingham a 280hp supercharged Frontline MGB GT caught me napping.
http://www.dep-o.co.uk/features/frontline-mg-le50/
Now I'm not endorsing this type of behaviour but this was just too tempting, so I went off in pursuit.
When I looked in my mirror a silver Ferrari 250GT SWB was chasing me
Considering it's £??? million value it was a delight to see the driver was piloting it just as Enzo had intended.
http://rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1057444
The TVR pulled away from that old Ferrari, but the Frontline was easily the equal of the Chimaera, I stayed with it until the screams of protest from my wife eventually stopped pay
It was a moment that'll stay will me forever
Time to add nitro into the mix as well!!! On that lovely fast winding A413 road from Aylesbury to Buckingham a 280hp supercharged Frontline MGB GT caught me napping.
http://www.dep-o.co.uk/features/frontline-mg-le50/
Now I'm not endorsing this type of behaviour but this was just too tempting, so I went off in pursuit.
When I looked in my mirror a silver Ferrari 250GT SWB was chasing me
Considering it's £??? million value it was a delight to see the driver was piloting it just as Enzo had intended.
http://rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1057444
The TVR pulled away from that old Ferrari, but the Frontline was easily the equal of the Chimaera, I stayed with it until the screams of protest from my wife eventually stopped pay
It was a moment that'll stay will me forever
Discopotatoes said:
I had a similar experience on Tuesday with the new Ferrari f70.
He couldn't shake me off
Mind you he probably wasn't trying too hard!
Edited by Discopotatoes on Sunday 28th July 21:41
Even if it was only an F12 with 730 bhp ( as opposed to the F70's 943 bhp) I'd say he wasn't trying too hard at all. In fact he was probably smoking a fag whilst speaking to his granny on his iPhone and trying to hook the phone up to the bluetooth at the same time.
cjj799 said:
Discopotatoes said:
I had a similar experience on Tuesday with the new Ferrari f70.
He couldn't shake me off
Mind you he probably wasn't trying too hard!
Edited by Discopotatoes on Sunday 28th July 21:41
Even if it was only an F12 with 730 bhp ( as opposed to the F70's 943 bhp) I'd say he wasn't trying too hard at all. In fact he was probably smoking a fag whilst speaking to his granny on his iPhone and trying to hook the phone up to the bluetooth at the same time.
When I first saw it in my mirrors I thought Lamborghini as it was white then as it passed me I saw the badge on the side,
Like I said he probably wasn't trying too hard and obviously wasn't using kerrs,
789 hp 1255kg power to weight = 628
So not that far away
Discopotatoes said:
Why do you doubt it was an f70?
When I first saw it in my mirrors I thought Lamborghini as it was white then as it passed me I saw the badge on the side,
Like I said he probably wasn't trying too hard and obviously wasn't using kerrs,
789 hp 1255kg power to weight = 628
So not that far away
I will stand to be corrected but I was not aware that any F70's have been produced yet, apart from motor show cars etc.When I first saw it in my mirrors I thought Lamborghini as it was white then as it passed me I saw the badge on the side,
Like I said he probably wasn't trying too hard and obviously wasn't using kerrs,
789 hp 1255kg power to weight = 628
So not that far away
OK, 628 bhp per tonne might not be too far away from your Chim, but I think most of us have a bit of work to do yet to mix it in that type of company.
Edited by cjj799 on Sunday 28th July 23:22
cjj799 said:
Discopotatoes said:
Why do you doubt it was an f70?
When I first saw it in my mirrors I thought Lamborghini as it was white then as it passed me I saw the badge on the side,
Like I said he probably wasn't trying too hard and obviously wasn't using kerrs,
789 hp 1255kg power to weight = 628
So not that far away
I will stand to be corrected but I was not aware that any F70's have been produced yet, apart from motor show cars etc.When I first saw it in my mirrors I thought Lamborghini as it was white then as it passed me I saw the badge on the side,
Like I said he probably wasn't trying too hard and obviously wasn't using kerrs,
789 hp 1255kg power to weight = 628
So not that far away
OK, 628 bhp per tonne might not be too far away from your Chim, but I think most of us have a bit of work to do yet to mix it in that type of company.
Edited by cjj799 on Sunday 28th July 23:22
ChimpOnGas said:
a 280hp supercharged Frontline MGB GT caught me napping..... the Frontline was easily the equal of the Chimaera, It was a moment that'll stay will me forever
Hmm, let me get this right. You were equalled by an MGB? An MGB? Whilst I've owned a number of MGB's in the past (including a factory V8), and still own a '72 Roadster (currently in storage) I find it most distressing that you couldn't show an MGB a clean set of heels. OK so it's got a SC. But it's still an MGB. For God's sake man, as if that wasn't bad enough, you've fessed up to it publicly.Lets hope the Griff girls don't see this, we'll never live it down.
An MGB. FFS
Spose it could have been worse, at least it wasn't an MX5
That's a very special MG ,the frontline stuff transforms the car with full independent suspension with coil overs
That car has been on piston heads ! What engine is it ?
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/news/news-new-mgb-...
That car has been on piston heads ! What engine is it ?
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/news/news-new-mgb-...
SILICONEKID343HP said:
That's a very special MG ,the frontline stuff transforms the car with full independent suspension with coil overs
That car has been on piston heads ! What engine is it ?
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/news/news-new-mgb-...
Actually that's the very car.That car has been on piston heads ! What engine is it ?
http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/news/news-new-mgb-...
Ordinarily I'd totally agree with Cilliman, I was brought up to call the MGB Roadster a Morris Oxford convertible, the MGB GT was the Austin Cambridge coupe.
An MGB in it's natural original state is not a very clever thing, it's just a BMC parts bin special really & not a very good one at that.
I know this £50k Frontline very well
A Frontline starts life with a reinforced & seam welded new heritage shell.
After that all the suspension is completely re-engineered and extremely effective modern power, transmission & running gear is added.
The whole thing is then painted & trimmed to perfection, the end result being something that looks like an MGB.......
But in practice couldn't be further away from the original car.
Trust me, a Frontline MGB is a very very rapid weapon on a fast A road like the A413.
But he still didn't get away from me in "Ol Gasbag"
ChimpOnGas said:
When I looked in my mirror a silver Ferrari 250GT SWB was chasing me
Considering it's £??? million value it was a delight to see the driver was piloting it just as Enzo had intended.
Probably this one. It was in the paddock on Saturday looking fabulous. Not concours but actually looking well used and all the better for it.Considering it's £??? million value it was a delight to see the driver was piloting it just as Enzo had intended.
As for MGBs, a yellow GT (not an LE50) made both me and a guy in a AM Vantage look a bit silly on the way to Silverstone. Don't know what he'd done to the bloody thing but it shifted like no MGB I've ever seen. So, if it's any consolation, you aren't alone
ToneyCaroney said:
Probably this one. It was in the paddock on Saturday looking fabulous. Not concours but actually looking well used and all the better for it.
As for MGBs, a yellow GT (not an LE50) made both me and a guy in a AM Vantage look a bit silly on the way to Silverstone. Don't know what he'd done to the bloody thing but it shifted like no MGB I've ever seen. So, if it's any consolation, you aren't alone
That looks awesome!As for MGBs, a yellow GT (not an LE50) made both me and a guy in a AM Vantage look a bit silly on the way to Silverstone. Don't know what he'd done to the bloody thing but it shifted like no MGB I've ever seen. So, if it's any consolation, you aren't alone
ToneyCaroney said:
ChimpOnGas said:
When I looked in my mirror a silver Ferrari 250GT SWB was chasing me
Considering it's £??? million value it was a delight to see the driver was piloting it just as Enzo had intended.
Probably this one. It was in the paddock on Saturday looking fabulous. Not concours but actually looking well used and all the better for it.Considering it's £??? million value it was a delight to see the driver was piloting it just as Enzo had intended.
As for MGBs, a yellow GT (not an LE50) made both me and a guy in a AM Vantage look a bit silly on the way to Silverstone. Don't know what he'd done to the bloody thing but it shifted like no MGB I've ever seen. So, if it's any consolation, you aren't alone
The Frontline LE50 in question wasn't supercharged so makes 215hp but weighs in at only 860kg (250hp per tonne)
A Ferrari 250SWB will typically make about 270hp from the Colombo V12 pushing along 1100kg (245hp per tonne)
"Ol Gasbag" makes 260hp & carries 1100kg with her gas bottles filled & 3 gallons of petrol on board (236hp per tonne)
So all three pretty evenly matched, it's the kind of even match where better brakes and handling really count.
All three proper old school classic cars with added thrills & huge charm.
- The Fronline costs £50,000.00
- The Ferrari costs £? Million/s
- Or you could have a nice Eagle E-Type built for £250,000.00
- A decent Chimaera can still be had for less that £10,000.00
I'm not saying a TVR is even close to a Ferrari 250SWB.
But if you like your sports cars with old school thrills but want something with better brakes & handling than the period stuff, you'll not find a better candidate than a TVR Chimaera (or Griff).
The fact a sorted Chimaera can be had for less that £10k makes it the classic sports car bargain of the century in my book.
That Frontline LE50 knew I was behind him & was trying his best to get away, the Ferrari was pressing on trying to stay with us both but his brakes & beam axle were not helping him.
Neither were looking at my TVR saying to themselves that's a £10k car, the TVR was getting respect & we were all having the times of our lives
But only one of us was doing the cost equivalent of 50mpg at the same time
Hi guys
As the driver of the old gas bag I thought I better reply...
I recall that group of 4 and remarked to my wife that the red Chimera was showing me he's "not that slow"
I collected the car from Frontline 3 weeks ago and have just come back from a 4000m run-in trip through Europe
I got the high performance option that makes 238hp at 8000rpm (all of which was in use during that traffic event)
Not bad from a 2L engine with Mazda's aproval
It's also got power steering, air conditioning, cruise control and a real radio among other things
It's off to my home in Australia this week
I looked at a lot of cars before deciding on the LE50 including a Ferrari, Maseratti and AM
None of them would come near it for handling and only the Lotus 7 would keep up in a straight line
I had a great run both days to the track but never exceeded 80mph, except overtaking (for safety reasons of course!)
The drive home Saturday night was a bit ordinary. Haven't you guys heard of drainage?
Thanks for your input to my holiday and I'm just sorry you're so slow
Cheers
Troy
As the driver of the old gas bag I thought I better reply...
I recall that group of 4 and remarked to my wife that the red Chimera was showing me he's "not that slow"
I collected the car from Frontline 3 weeks ago and have just come back from a 4000m run-in trip through Europe
I got the high performance option that makes 238hp at 8000rpm (all of which was in use during that traffic event)
Not bad from a 2L engine with Mazda's aproval
It's also got power steering, air conditioning, cruise control and a real radio among other things
It's off to my home in Australia this week
I looked at a lot of cars before deciding on the LE50 including a Ferrari, Maseratti and AM
None of them would come near it for handling and only the Lotus 7 would keep up in a straight line
I had a great run both days to the track but never exceeded 80mph, except overtaking (for safety reasons of course!)
The drive home Saturday night was a bit ordinary. Haven't you guys heard of drainage?
Thanks for your input to my holiday and I'm just sorry you're so slow
Cheers
Troy
Troyr said:
Hi guys
As the driver of the old gas bag I thought I better reply...
I recall that group of 4 and remarked to my wife that the red Chimera was showing me he's "not that slow"
I collected the car from Frontline 3 weeks ago and have just come back from a 4000m run-in trip through Europe
I got the high performance option that makes 238hp at 8000rpm (all of which was in use during that traffic event)
Not bad from a 2L engine with Mazda's aproval
It's also got power steering, air conditioning, cruise control and a real radio among other things
It's off to my home in Australia this week
I looked at a lot of cars before deciding on the LE50 including a Ferrari, Maseratti and AM
None of them would come near it for handling and only the Lotus 7 would keep up in a straight line
I had a great run both days to the track but never exceeded 80mph, except overtaking (for safety reasons of course!)
The drive home Saturday night was a bit ordinary. Haven't you guys heard of drainage?
Thanks for your input to my holiday and I'm just sorry you're so slow
Cheers
Troy
Massive As the driver of the old gas bag I thought I better reply...
I recall that group of 4 and remarked to my wife that the red Chimera was showing me he's "not that slow"
I collected the car from Frontline 3 weeks ago and have just come back from a 4000m run-in trip through Europe
I got the high performance option that makes 238hp at 8000rpm (all of which was in use during that traffic event)
Not bad from a 2L engine with Mazda's aproval
It's also got power steering, air conditioning, cruise control and a real radio among other things
It's off to my home in Australia this week
I looked at a lot of cars before deciding on the LE50 including a Ferrari, Maseratti and AM
None of them would come near it for handling and only the Lotus 7 would keep up in a straight line
I had a great run both days to the track but never exceeded 80mph, except overtaking (for safety reasons of course!)
The drive home Saturday night was a bit ordinary. Haven't you guys heard of drainage?
Thanks for your input to my holiday and I'm just sorry you're so slow
Cheers
Troy
Troy, we appreciate you joining us here to tell us all about your Frontline LE50.What an amazing car, and shockingly fast on that winding road from Aylesbury to Buckingham.
I had to pull out of the fun after 5 minutes as the wife wasn't keen on our antics, and I value my family jewels
But I briefly got some play time in with you, and we both very much left the group behind
I was running on LPG at the time & doing the cost equivalent of 50mpg, but she's making more power than petrol that way
A massive thanks for making my day, & congratulations on choosing the Frontline LE50.
It retains everything good about a classic car but completely engineers out the limitations & compromises.
I must say she sounded absolutely awsome when you flew by me too, especially for a four banger
Top effort from the sheep farmer
As you can see I've been a fan of your car for some time now.....
PS: Stop stealing our nice cars & taking them to kangaroo country
It sounds like your car is fast enough Chimp, you just need a faster wife!
This is the third car I've rescued from the sleet and salt!
And the second time I've shared a container with a TVR too
Last time it was a Tuscan race car, this time a GT racer (I haven't seen it yet)
A circuit racing buddy of mine collects (and races) them
In Australia we make big lazy boring sedans with ludicrous engines like the poor old Americans
I keep promising to bring one of mine back but I cant bear to part with any
This one will become the flagship of the fleet (of old English and European relics)
The great sound appears between 5 and 8,000rpm. below that it sounds remarkably like a B!
I have only manages 46mpg on my travels so far
Anyway, take care
Troy
This is the third car I've rescued from the sleet and salt!
And the second time I've shared a container with a TVR too
Last time it was a Tuscan race car, this time a GT racer (I haven't seen it yet)
A circuit racing buddy of mine collects (and races) them
In Australia we make big lazy boring sedans with ludicrous engines like the poor old Americans
I keep promising to bring one of mine back but I cant bear to part with any
This one will become the flagship of the fleet (of old English and European relics)
The great sound appears between 5 and 8,000rpm. below that it sounds remarkably like a B!
I have only manages 46mpg on my travels so far
Anyway, take care
Troy
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