RE: Radical engine pumps massive power

RE: Radical engine pumps massive power

Monday 18th October 2004

Radical engine pumps massive power

RPA V8 makes 383 bhp dyno debut


The four day dyno test of Powertec's RPA 2.6 litre V8 (aka ‘Christine’) has been hugely successful. After the equivalent of 30 racing hours, Christine has proven to be attractive, smooth and reliable, but when roused she turns into a wild screaming thing. The maximum power figure recorded over the four days was 383 bhp at 10,000 rpm.

The development programme involved varying the length of the eight primary exhaust pipes (see here, glowing red), trying different induction inlet configurations, varying the plenum chamber size, lengthening and shortening the inlet trumpets, and continually altering the engine management map.

The best run with the twin butterfly system that will be utilised in the SR8 saw a maximum power output of 372bhp at 9,800 rpm, with 207 ft lbs of torque at 6,800 rpm.

Boss Ted Hurrell was understandably well-pleased, “It is unprecedented that a new engine development programme should go so well. This engine is going to re-write the book. The RPA engine is producing Cosworth DFV power at sensible clubman money. All the signs are that the RPA rebuild costs will be very reasonable, and the time between rebuilds should be over 30 hours.”

“When this development phase is complete, we will look at producing a two litre version, and a highly-tuned version for the hill climb boys. The sky is the limit. I’m expecting a call from Minardi and Jordan any day now!”

More here.

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fatbutt

Original Poster:

2,659 posts

265 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Isn't this the "two 4 cylinder bike engines welded together in a V" engine?

350matt

3,740 posts

280 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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How much does this cost then?

Matt

XM5er

5,091 posts

249 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Cheer up you miserable sods.

Well done radical, go and set a new Nordschlief record.

Ruxpin

324 posts

246 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Congrats Radical!! Looks very impressive.

Autocar were quoting around 16k when they sell it on its own.

Oh and it fits an elise with only slight modification

Alex

9,975 posts

285 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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What gearbox is it designed to mate up to?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Radical have worked with Quaife to develop a longtitudinal gear box and a transaxle so it can be used front engined rear drive and mid engined.

And it uses Hayabusa heads, but everything else is custom produced for this engine, from what I can tell.

dinkel

26,965 posts

259 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Which Caterham dares? And yes: smash the N-ring record.

Still - you all think this idea sucks - but it'll be nice in a 'small' TVR T260 . . .

Dakkon

7,826 posts

254 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Ruxpin said:
Congrats Radical!! Looks very impressive.

Autocar were quoting around 16k when they sell it on its own.

Oh and it fits an elise with only slight modification


Would the Elise chassis be able to handle the power?

Ruxpin

324 posts

246 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Dakkon said:

Ruxpin said:
Congrats Radical!! Looks very impressive.

Autocar were quoting around 16k when they sell it on its own.

Oh and it fits an elise with only slight modification



Would the Elise chassis be able to handle the power?


I'm not sure, but it would certainly be amusing.

People run 300bhp 1.8T's and i don't think they modify the chassis

The radical is definitley going to fly with it fitted though

waveydavey

2 posts

243 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Quote=[All the signs are that the RPA rebuild costs will be very reasonable, and the time between rebuilds should be over 30 hours.]
A whole 30 hours between rebuilds so it may suit a TVR

caribeiro

58 posts

273 months

Monday 18th October 2004
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Impressive, just impressive...

Isn't a F1 engine but it's very close, and much more cheap.
Of course, regarding all the differences, between this good example of Fantastic Engineering and the F1 engines.

This is real definition of Good Engineering, performance with "limited" resources (when compared with the F1).

When compared the cost of this engine with a F1 (1/2 million €uros/engine), I prefer this one, without any kind of doubt.

Get more revs of that engine and we will see it.

Congratulations Radical.

donteatpeople

831 posts

275 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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"a highly-tuned version for the hill climb boys" that could be fun concidering Big CC Racing have tuned a Hayabusa engine to 540bhp so even with its lower revs this engine could touch 1000bhp

dinkel

26,965 posts

259 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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What about this:
www.cyclonepowerltd.co.uk/engine_performance.htm

Will these small hi-revving engines become a trend for the future?

www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehicle.asp?car_id=291&vehicleTypeID=

nildram

293 posts

262 months

Tuesday 19th October 2004
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I've heard the 2 litre Radical unit will rev to something like 14k, so I reckon they'll still be getting 350bhp out of it!

TonyF

2,300 posts

277 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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See you on the grid in one next year then adrian will we ???

nildram

293 posts

262 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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Too fast for me, Tony!

NST

1,523 posts

244 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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dinkel said:
What about this:
www.cyclonepowerltd.co.uk/engine_performance.htm

Will these small hi-revving engines become a trend for the future?

www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehicle.asp?car_id=291&vehicleTypeID=


A review of 1995 Jimenez Novia W16 in (iirc)performance car many years go. fantastic bit of engineering

dinkel

26,965 posts

259 months

Wednesday 17th November 2004
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An engine comes to live above 6000, imo . . . When all is put together to do so off course.

I love those hi revving beasties . . . Radical way to go!