Cerb v t350

[combine]

Why is there such a big difference in the value/price of these two tvr's if you take the speed six cerb comparison ? I presume the handling of a speed six Cerb is similar to a t350 ? The Cerbera looks like a hell of a bargain ?

[Tang Soo Tim]

Friend of mine has a t350 and very different to my Cerb.

Cerb is more a GT tourer type, longer and more comfortable.

t350 is better track car type drive.

Build quality on his 350 streets ahead of my Cerb and think that reflects in price.

Speed six Cerb is huge debate on here ! I love my 4.5 V8 but I'd love a go in a power 4.3 speed six ! I bet that's one hell of a motor

All this IMO .......

[aide]

Having done more or less the same big euro trip a few times (once in the cerb) and countless other mid range euro trips over the years I have to say that the cerbera is in no way a GT car.
Unfortunately it just does a half arsed attempt at everything - track car, GT car, family car, four seater, drag car! etc.. etc..

[Bigadz]

A friend of mine (Tim also) has a T350 - one of the very best you will see as well. Interior is indeed miles ahead, it's a nice place to be, that said I still love the swoop of the Cerb dash.
Handling will vary massively depending on the individual setup etc and suspension. The wheelbase of the Cerb does however lend itself to a slightly more progressive breakaway. Not having driven a T350 I wouldn't be able to comment but I would guess it is somewhat more direct (even compared to a Cerb) and also a little more nervous to go with it. I had no problems keeping pace behind on a country road.

[IanMorewood]

T350's also a little newer and to be fair prettier than the Cerb. That said without 4 seats the T350 wouldn't get my vote right now.

[natben]

I dont do big Euro trips, and can't compare with a T350 but I can can compare against my last TVR a Tuscan with my Cerera SP6. Personally I think the Cerbera is a better car, not by much though. I much prefer the interior of the Cerbera and Its handling is more composed than my Tuscan ever was but that could be down to suspension set up.
My Cerb is 2 years newer than my Tuscan which was a 2001 and the build quality is better in my Cerbera, no glue stains or squeeks and rattles and the quality definatley improved from TVR towards the end . The Tuscan was great for roof off and rear window out driving and head turning looks but I could quite happily have both, but the Cerbera justs edges it for me.
Cerbera SP6s are a bargain, if they have had a rebuild, the reputation of the speed six is vastly improved on where it was when I bought my Tuscan in 2003 and the engine if rebuilt by one of the reputable builders are proven to be very very strong. I have had my Speed Six Cerbera for 4 years now and cant imagine being without it.

Edited by natben on Tuesday 30th July 23:17

[cerb4.5lee]

I loved my Cerb in pretty much everyway but I remember talking to Paul at PPC & he spoke very highly of the T350 in terms of handling & as a track car & he described it to be far superior to the Cerb in terms of driving position & overall feel in a track environment & he had the same positive thoughts about the sag too.

The only reason we discussed this was that my original plan was to swap my Cerb for a T350 as that is what I always wanted to do...but the Cerb knocked my duck off with regards to TVR ownership so my plan didn't come together.

[ShiDevil]

Bigadz said:

A friend of mine (Tim also) has a T350 - one of the very best you will see as well. Interior is indeed miles ahead, it's a nice place to be, that said I still love the swoop of the Cerb dash.
Handling will vary massively depending on the individual setup etc and suspension. The wheelbase of the Cerb does however lend itself to a slightly more progressive breakaway. Not having driven a T350 I wouldn't be able to comment but I would guess it is somewhat more direct (even compared to a Cerb) and also a little more nervous to go with it. I had no problems keeping pace behind on a country road.

Cheeky my ride height was too low and my tyres were rubbing the arches, over every bloody bump it didnt help there was 30+ man stone in the car, very hard to push it like that plus with a freshly painted front end and new windscreen i was trying yo look after her

A trip to centre of gravity next week then try to keep up after that lol There are differences, 10 years of engineering will offer improvements. I've driven my mates Cerb many times, straight line power is scary (420bhp), however the car does feels more unpredictable, handling wise, compared to a t350. Country lanes i can hammer it, but i feel less comfortable in the cerb. My mate drove mine and our view is the t350 is more drivable given the engineering improvements, however I wouldn't change the characteristics of the cerb, it's an awesome car, very unnerving looking at it in your rear view mirror

Adam this, Thursday night Stilton 7:30 bring the cerb, we have a t350 meet anyone else welcome too

Edited by ShiDevil on Wednesday 31st July 00:22

[jamieduff1981]

IanMorewood said:

and to be fair prettier than the Cerb

That's a matter for debate!

I don't mind the T350 at all, however whenever I see one it just looks like a Diet Sagaris.

[Gazzab]

A T350 would seem such a downward move from a sorted cerbera. My late cerb is very well put together. Far better looking than a T350.

[billy no brakes]

I have owned a Cerb for 14 years and just bought a T350, only drove the T350 for 4 days though before a little mishap, but I would say that the build quality is far better in T350 and handling round the twisty bits the Cerb would not keep up. I still love the Cerb and have sold it to my son but only as long as I could drive it when I wanted too. I have just sold a Tuscan with a 4ltr speed six and not much difference below 100mph on track but above that my Cerb just kept pulling, the T350 I have has the original 3.6 speed 6 engine and you can notice the difference so I might upgrade the engine next year as I do miss the sheer speed in it but as I said round twisty bits its like a little go kart, I,am going to change the Gaz Pros and put on Gaz Monotubes as they are getting good reviews, Cerb has Nitrons, the T350 is more comfortable and more modern and the dials and computer is just like a newer car, I love the looks of the Cerb smooth lines but the T350 looks stunning, it was hard selling the Cerb but I just love the T350, biggest draw back with the T350 is the boot space, I was going to go to Le Mans in it but could not because of the little mishap so I took the Tuscan and that was loaded to max, so next year I,am going to have to scale down what I take, still love the Cerb but the T350 has the edge for me

Gary

[Jhonno]

jamieduff1981 said:

That's a matter for debate!

I don't mind the T350 at all, however whenever I see one it just looks like a Diet Sagaris.

[Mags]

I would have thought the price of T350's is down to numbers built as well? Aren't there less T350's than Cerbs?
As Gazza B says, late Cerbs have much improved build quality, mine was noticeably different to others I viewed, no glue marks etc and hence why I bought it.
I really like T350's and I actually thought the boot would be better than a Cerb, maybe not.

Mags

[gerradiuk]

To be fair Billy you would expect the T350 to be an improvement on a Cerbera or a Tuscan in the handling Dept & quality, the company had years & better tech/materials to make good so a little unfair on our poor old Cerb's.

I like & agree with Gazzab's point, to me, a Cerbera's have the Wow factor in & out of the car, whether they "are" a better car I don't know.

Footnote,Billy what is your take on the Tuscan v Cerbera ?
Your a lucky guy to own all those Tvr's ,I do envy you.

[billy no brakes]

I really like T350's and I actually thought the boot would be better than a Cerb, maybe not.

You have forgot the back seats in the Cerb can be used for storage as well and on the way to Le Mans they was full up and could not use review mirror , hence my note about scaling down next year going to Le Mans

[Bigadz]

ShiDevil said:

Cheeky my ride height was too low and my tyres were rubbing the arches, over every bloody bump it didnt help there was 30+ man stone in the car, very hard to push it like that plus with a freshly painted front end and new windscreen i was trying yo look after her

Edited by ShiDevil on Wednesday 31st July 00:22

I knew you would take the bait on this Steve Too easy....

I would love to be there but I am away then AGAIN - simple broken headlight lens has also led to a bigger job now so car going into Matt sometime next week.

[billy no brakes]

gerradiuk said:

To be fair Billy you would expect the T350 to be an improvement on a Cerbera or a Tuscan in the handling Dept & quality, the company had years & better tech/materials to make good so a little unfair on our poor old Cerb's.

I like & agree with Gazzab's point, to me, a Cerbera's have the Wow factor in & out of the car, whether they "are" a better car I don't know.

Footnote,Billy what is your take on the Tuscan v Cerbera ?
Your a lucky guy to own all those Tvr's ,I do envy you.

Agreed with the fact that they are newer cars, but as I said I love the Cerb and had it 14 years and it was still hard to sell it, it took a long hard think but the test drive in the T350 just swayed me still do love the Cerb and I,am lucky to still be able to drive it but the T350 just has the edge

Tuscan v Cerb

To be fair I only had the MK1 Tuscan and for handling the Cerb was so much more planted and better round the twisty bits, both have Nitrons and the Tuscan the ACT spacers but with my style of driving the Tuscan was not up to the job, run for cover, The Tuscan was great on long motorways and nice swoopy roads and the roof came off and the speed 6 engine was not as aggressive as the V8 and a little easier round town, but my vote goes to the Cerb, as I said can,t comment on the MK2 Tuscan

I have sold the Tuscan yesterday and I think I have the ideal TVR garage

A well sorted Griff, which is stunning, ACT triple plenum, Wilwood brake upgrade, AST shocks, full hide interior with upgraded carbon dash, surrey roof.

And now the T350 which I will get just how I want over the next year unless Les Edgar comes up with a stunning new TVR that will be me for the foreseeable future a Griff that the roof comes off for touring the T350 for nice fast driving

I,am a happy bunny

[combine]

So from reading these comments it looks like most folk reckon the t350 is worth the money over a Cerb give or take the looks of a t350.

[Gazzab]

combine said:

So from reading these comments it looks like most folk reckon the t350 is worth the money over a Cerb give or take the looks of a t350.

Not really. A 98 cerb v's 05 T350 then the t350 is worth the premium IMHO but it's not an apples and apples comparison.

[C3BER]

Cerb or T350 mmmmm wife says the cerb is a different beast. So that's your answer, if you want a beast get a cerb, if you want a slimline tonic get a T350.