Can Hamilton win F1 drivers world championship?
Can Hamilton win F1 drivers world championship?
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bulla003

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69 posts

199 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Hi all,

Following Hamilton's Hungary win, he goes onto to say that he could win 10 races this season which probably results him winning the championship? Can he win the world championship again or is this too much to ask?

Additionally could Mercedes also win the constructors title as well?

http://www.espn.co.uk/mercedes/motorsport/story/11...

RobGT81

5,229 posts

215 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Yes he could, as could Alonso, Vettel or Kimi.

ewenm

28,506 posts

274 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Of course Hamilton and Mercedes could win the titles this year. Will they? Who knows, that's what makes it interesting!

phatgixer

4,988 posts

278 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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I hope so. smile

MitchT

17,114 posts

238 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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If you have a car that doesn't do well 'till you reach Hungary, but then does well at Hungary, then it's likely that it won't do very well after Hungary.

RichB

56,206 posts

313 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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As has been said elsewhere Merc have two drivers going for it whereas Webber's motivation may flag as the season progresses. As a result the constructors championship cold be within reach.

Henry Fiddleton

1,597 posts

206 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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No.

The red bull is to consistant in the hands of Vettel.

I hope I am proved wrong.


P-Jay

11,397 posts

220 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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I don't think so, but I'd love to see it.

Possible of course, but I fear what will happen is, if this is a genuine improvement in Mercedes performance, is that Lewis and Nico will pinch points from Ferrari and Lotus and maybe even a few from Redbull, but it won't be enough to overhaul Seb's lead and will just serve to nullify his closest competitors.

It's what has helped Seb in the last few years, in some (a lot) of races he's done his usual hat trick of Pole, Fastest Lap, Win and controlled everything from the front, but when he hasn't got the win it's never consistently the same guy who wins it's a case of either Seb wins, or one of the others, I think the same thing will happen this year, Seb's going to win and 4-5 guys are fighting for second.

Next year though... I fancy Mercedes will be dominant, they've got a 6 month development head start on RedBull and McLaren and more money than Ferrari.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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What do you mean they have 6 months development head start? The engines, you mean?

Derek Smith

49,670 posts

277 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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What knackers tyres is not so much speed as braking from high speed. Spa might prove difficult for Merc. If it doesn't then I reckon that there is a possibility LH could win the WDC. I'm not holding my breath though.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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I thought Whitmarah said that they have been working on next years car, but they were split between this year, and next year. They recently stop developing anything that is solely for this years car.

Stuck In A Lift

2,948 posts

200 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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MitchT said:
If you have a car that doesn't do well 'till you reach Hungary, but then does well at Hungary, then it's likely that it won't do very well after Hungary.
hehe

P-Jay

11,397 posts

220 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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TheHeretic said:
What do you mean they have 6 months development head start? The engines, you mean?
Yes, an not just in terms of what the engines will provide in terms of power / torque but the size weight etc because as we all know engines are part of the structure as well as providing the power.

The teams who use customer engines will be at a disadvantage - they'll no doubt be working on their 2014 cars now and have been for a while, but without the engines they'll be guestimating at best.

Mercedes, Renault and Ferrari will already have all this data and be ahead of them for a year when the cars will change a hell of all lot:

Renault as we've seen recently when they couldn't pay Kimi don't have an unlimited budget and a question over their star driver who they'll no doubt be trying to build a car around.

Ferrari have data correlation problems and are running tests with their 2011 car just to get their 2013 car to work properly and again are having problems with their Star driver.

Mercedes on the other hand have been given a HUGE budget to work with, have been recruiting very clever people to work of them - they have almost two full teams of 'brains'. Their 2013 car seems to be, on recent form anyway, very good and their driver line-up is strong and more importantly not going anywhere.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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As far as I k ow, the configuration of the engines, weight, centre of gravity and all that stuff, is in the regulations somewhere. I'm not sure it will be THAT much of an advantage?

Jasandjules

72,560 posts

258 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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IF Merc are getting on top of their tyre degradation then yes it is possible. Kimi may however sneak a win with consistent placings if Seb and Lewis/Nico fight over wins...

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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Jasandjules said:
IF Merc are getting on top of their tyre degradation then yes it is possible. Kimi may however sneak a win with consistent placings if Seb and Lewis/Nico fight over wins...
Well, Kimi has sneaked into second spot based on consistency. I think Kimi is more likely to challenge, I think.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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TheHeretic said:
As far as I k ow, the configuration of the engines, weight, centre of gravity and all that stuff, is in the regulations somewhere. I'm not sure it will be THAT much of an advantage?
It's not just the engine though - teams will be buying in the engine, transmission and ERS (not KERS next year) as a unit. The packaging of that will be fairly crucial, and the teams that make their own motors have a bit of a jump on the others in that respect.

Catatafish

1,523 posts

174 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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davepoth said:
It's not just the engine though - teams will be buying in the engine, transmission and ERS (not KERS next year) as a unit. The packaging of that will be fairly crucial, and the teams that make their own motors have a bit of a jump on the others in that respect.
They only need the CAD models to start. They don't have to wait for delivery of the engines.

bracken78

996 posts

235 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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I would like to see him or Kimi beat Vettel/Red bull this year but I cannot see it happening.

Hamilton and Kimi would need to beat Vettel by over 5 point each race for the rest of 2013 and with the speed Vettel has in the Red bull I don’t see it happening.

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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Mercedes has had (and still do have) the outright fastest car this season. Their only problem has been tyre wear, which seems to be pretty close to being sorted out. So once that's under control, Hamilton should be able to dominate in the same manner as Vettel in 2011. Even if they don't fully master the tyres, the car is still fast enough to attain pole position and finish on the podium at every race.

It's been an interesting season so far. The Red Bull has been the best all-rounder -- not the outright fastest, or the best at managing tyres, but it has no glaring weaknesses. The Mercedes is definitely the fastest, but suffers tyre issues. Lotus is the reverse of the Mercedes - great with tyres but only moderately fast. Ferrari looked equal to the Red Bull until Canada, but has lagged in development since then.

The next half should be edge-of-the-seat! smile