4.2 Cerbs for 15k...
Discussion
trooper1212 said:
Depends on the individual car. I bought one at that sort of price and it has cost me £6k in servicing, maintenance and upgrades to do 12,000 miles over year.
It's up to you if you consider that heartbreak
I'd agree with this, my car was also this sort of price due to high milage, check out my running costs
Sometimes I think about how much money I'd have had if i didn't have the Cerbera, but you only live once
DanBoy said:
i think the V8 idea is better if you are on a budget. Cerb running costs often guessed at double the running costs of a RV8 car.
I thought the 4.2 was a V8?
the 4.2 and the 4.5 are V8s. But they are AJP V8s (basically a race engine!) compared to a 30 year old design Rover V8 (RV8).
ie - the Rover V8 is far cheaper to maintain. Other side of the coin, the AJP V8 is a race engine so considerably faster....
£3k a year is considered the rough average running costs. At the bottom end of the scale (ie £15k for the car) then you may wish to put aside a little more - see Troopers comments...
If it's 3k spread out over a year, then that's fine.
I could probably budget a little more than 15k anyway, but am just checking things out. I don't have much in the way of outgoings.
I've always loved Cerbs. Owning one would be a bit of a dream come true, even moreso than owning an RX.
Had no idea they were so easy to insure!
I could probably budget a little more than 15k anyway, but am just checking things out. I don't have much in the way of outgoings.
I've always loved Cerbs. Owning one would be a bit of a dream come true, even moreso than owning an RX.
Had no idea they were so easy to insure!
DanBoy said:
If it's 3k spread out over a year, then that's fine.
I could probably budget a little more than 15k anyway, but am just checking things out. I don't have much in the way of outgoings.
I've always loved Cerbs. Owning one would be a bit of a dream come true, even moreso than owning an RX.
Had no idea they were so easy to insure!
add insurance and petrol and I would guess you are looking at another £5k. So £8k a year plus any finance repayments and thats on the basis you get a "good one" that doesnt need £6k+ in a year. Then you are talking £11k plus any finance repayments. Its quite an outlay but there arent many that regret it...
plotloss said:
Its not neccesarily spread.
New clutch and new slave cylinder all at once (unlikely but I bet its happened) and you are looking at the thick end of £2K just for those...
One of the most beautiful sports cars of all time without doubt, but a mistress not a wife...
I have 15k stowed away for "emergencies," car related or otherwise! So I should be covered just incase.
Insurance would probably be paid off in monthly installments of around 180 quid - It's just easier for me that way although it means I pay fractionally more.
My work doesn't require long commutes so the car would mostly be a weekend toy! I've managed to run an MR2 on £250 month for a year so, touch wood, I should be OK with a Cerb now that I'm working full time.
Seems to me like I should take it under consideration.
Only problem that might present itself is moving into a flat sooner or later, but it's better to have owned one than not.
>> Edited by DanBoy on Monday 18th October 16:20
DanBoy said:
Are these a good idea? 
Or are they likely to be heartbreakers?
Not so much a heartbreaker as a walletbreaker.
I bought a 1996 4.2 over a year ago when they were around the 20k mark. Must've spent at least 10k since. Car is now completely sorted top to bottom and a complete joy. As long as eyes are open going into Cerb ownership you can't go wrong.
dan, if you wont be able to own one when you buy your first place then buy one now - better to have loved and lost, than not to have loved. and all that stuff...
they are the most outrageous awesome machines and a bargain in terms of the purchase cost. Go for it mate. I would love one, but with a mortgage and bills that take up over a grand a month, its only becoming a reality now I am starting to earn decent money.
they are the most outrageous awesome machines and a bargain in terms of the purchase cost. Go for it mate. I would love one, but with a mortgage and bills that take up over a grand a month, its only becoming a reality now I am starting to earn decent money.
SXS said:
Go for it, but if you havent driven a car that can 'potentially' fall apart, you're in for a major headache - but then - the smile outweighs the bank balance diminishing (if common sense didnt come into it of course)
I ran a Golf that did fall apart once, quite literally!
I appreciate that cars are incredibly expensive to run. The way I see it, owning a sports car is like having a kid to look after. To me, that puts financial responsibility aspect into perspective.
I'm going to think about it - It will take me a year to save up enough cash anyway. It seems to me like Cerb running costs are similar to that of an RX7... Am I right, or am I way off?
When the time comes to move out I'll probably get a place with a mate of mine who will help share the cost. With a bit of luck, I'll have been promoted in a couple of years too. Not counting on that though, obviously.
>> Edited by DanBoy on Monday 18th October 16:50
DanBoy said:
I'm going to think about it - It will take me a year to save up enough cash anyway. It seems to me like Cerb running costs are similar to that of an RX7... Am I right, or am I way off?
i would be stunned if that were the case. I looked at an RX7 before I bought the chim, and again a few months back as a "tie me over" car. Seemed cheap to run, reliable and only costly in mpg (no different to the TVR) and come 60k - 70k miles, a rebuild for the rotor tips - with change from £1500 - £2k. Seems cheap to run from the mouth of those who own RX7s and thats from someone who "only" runs the Rover V8 TVRs.
They can be very very expensive to run. £3K is the average to cover servicing and repairs BUT not ins, tyres or fuel.
It could cost less BUT not likely.
Warrantees are rarely worth having.
The bills could be a lot more. In 2 yrs I spent £13K on repairs and servicing.
BUT there is no depreciation on the older ones.
They CAN be unreliable and are just about always a bit of a mistress.
BUT buy with heart not head.
You will regret it at times. BUT you only live once.
Buying is the easy bit. Selling a sports car can be a nightmare. Many people struggle.
Try and buy a 'known' car.
It could cost less BUT not likely.
Warrantees are rarely worth having.
The bills could be a lot more. In 2 yrs I spent £13K on repairs and servicing.
BUT there is no depreciation on the older ones.
They CAN be unreliable and are just about always a bit of a mistress.
BUT buy with heart not head.
You will regret it at times. BUT you only live once.
Buying is the easy bit. Selling a sports car can be a nightmare. Many people struggle.
Try and buy a 'known' car.
Comment mentioned about the 15K ’ers being likely to be the ‘hearbreakers’ could equally be applied to any of the Cerbera range.
I’m not here just to promote my car (presently for sale in the classifieds @15K) but if the engine is over rev’d or miss-treated before the oil temp has been allowed to reach it’s optimum then you could be asking for trouble later in it’s life.
The AJP is basically a racing engine for the general road and should be treated as such and slowly warmed from cold.
The asking price should not put anyone off and a regular service should see away or warn of potential problems.
If price is the key how would you feel paying 16 to 17k for the same vehicle.
Martin
I’m not here just to promote my car (presently for sale in the classifieds @15K) but if the engine is over rev’d or miss-treated before the oil temp has been allowed to reach it’s optimum then you could be asking for trouble later in it’s life.
The AJP is basically a racing engine for the general road and should be treated as such and slowly warmed from cold.
The asking price should not put anyone off and a regular service should see away or warn of potential problems.
If price is the key how would you feel paying 16 to 17k for the same vehicle.
Martin
And high-rev driving puts further stress on internal components - especially if you have seen the build quality of the pistons and valves! 
Problem is, you never know, until you bought her, drive her around and next day - sods law - major engine work - I wander how many have been through a similar scenario...
Problem is, you never know, until you bought her, drive her around and next day - sods law - major engine work - I wander how many have been through a similar scenario...
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