The demise of Photoshop
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mybrainhurts

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284 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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Ref the withdrawal of Photoshop in favour of offering it for rent, does this apply to Photoshop Elements as well as the big boy version?

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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No.

Elements and Lightroom are not part of Creative Cloud.

flat-planedCrank

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232 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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mybrainhurts said:
Ref the withdrawal of Photoshop in favour of offering it for rent, does this apply to Photoshop Elements as well as the big boy version?
Just the 'creative cloud' (CC) versions of Adobe's software.

Doesn't apply to Photoshop Elements, Lightroom, etc.

mybrainhurts

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90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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Ta...wavey

mybrainhurts

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Thursday 1st August 2013
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Are you pros a little pissed off with this development?

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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If I were a pro, then I wouldn't be; the new licensing scheme gives you more software for less money, as long as you need it all, with the added bonus of always being on the latest version.

The people who hate this are enthusiastic amateurs, who only need Photoshop, and for whom this is now an expensive proposition. Also, they can't* just get a hooky version off their mate any more.

I'm quite content with Elements and Lightroom, and so it's all a storm in someone else's teacup for me.
*I say "can't", when I mean "can't, without a good deal more fannying about than before"

ian in lancs

3,853 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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mybrainhurts said:
Are you pros a little pissed off with this development?
semi-pro and yes. I object to paying for more than I need. I need LR as PS that is all; there is no package to deliver that. Therefore CS6 is the end of the road unless the pricing strategy changes. And I have paid for CS5 and 6 and LR2-5. Bit pissed with Adobe to be honest.

2slo

1,998 posts

196 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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Imagine if you were a fly on the wall in the Adobe management meeting,the conversation might go something like,

'We calculate we have lost $000,000's revenue due to an estimated XXXXX illegal downloads of our CS software from torrent sites worldwide. We have to do something about this'

Although the creative cloud introduction makes sense to me (from adobes pov) I don't like it either on the basis that I've paid for CS6 and don't really want to pay any more at the moment. I'll be staying with CS6 for the foreseeable.

Nick Grant

5,490 posts

264 months

Thursday 1st August 2013
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I've never understood their pricing, if it was £150 they would sell x8 more copies and be quids in. The only reason people sought hooky copies was that it was soooo expensive.

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

226 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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[quote=CommanderJamesonAlso, they can't* just get a hooky version off their mate any more.
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Photoshop CC is fully cracked just like all previous versions, using the same method. So all the amateurs with dodgy versions already have the latest version as well.

With regards to the complaints though surely all the pros would be shelling out £600+ anyway this year for CS7? With the subscription it is £18pm ie. £216pa. So in 3 years you would probably upgrade anyway, needing another £600, which is about the same as you are paying with your subscription.
And if you only upgrade every 5 years, then you would be using CS6 for a good few more years anyway.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Friday 2nd August 2013
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Nick Grant said:
I've never understood their pricing, if it was £150 they would sell x8 more copies and be quids in. The only reason people sought hooky copies was that it was soooo expensive.
I suspect Adobe are fully aware of the amount of piracy going on and don't actually want to stop it. They know that businesses will pay the full price and are quite happy to let the students and individuals pirate it because this allows them to continue to be the industry standard.

Businesses wouldn't pay hundreds of pounds if it was free to students/individuals and most students/cheapskates would still pirate it even if it was sub-£100. They are effectively doing market segmentation via the back door.