V12 Vantage S - The noise
V12 Vantage S - The noise
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JonV12V

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212 posts

175 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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V12 Vantage S in Onyx on the road this morning in Banbury on a 13 plate. Guess its a pre-production car. Not quick enough to get a piccie, but it sounded rawer/louder than a regular V12 (One-77 derived exhaust system I guess) and just looked planted on the road. Got me tempted now !

Cockernee

3,059 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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JonV12V said:
V12 Vantage S in Onyx on the road this morning in Banbury on a 13 plate. Guess its a pre-production car. Not quick enough to get a piccie, but it sounded rawer/louder than a regular V12 (One-77 derived exhaust system I guess) and just looked planted on the road. Got me tempted now !
Same as before, drive it you buy it yes I have and I do....

The exhaust is a nicer note than a standard V12V

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

207 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I'm sure the new exhaust will be retro fittable to existing V12V which will make for a far cheaper option! biggrin

Cockernee

3,059 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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AdamV12V said:
I'm sure the new exhaust will be retro fittable to existing V12V which will make for a far cheaper option! biggrin
Better still get the BR Exhausts and it sounds even better and I have more BHP than a V12V S wink. Sadly still not a V12V S frown

whoami

13,200 posts

270 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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Cockernee said:
Better still get the BR Exhausts and it sounds even better and I have more BHP than a V12V S wink. Sadly still not a V12V S frown
Apart from the power, was it primarily the new suspension that moved it on from the V12?

JonV12V

Original Poster:

212 posts

175 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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Agree - I was actually surprised by the difference in sound. Much louder and rawer than my 'standard V12V. Needless to say that I heard it before I saw it!

Will be interesting to see how much the exhaust cost to retrofit to a standard V12, but the switchable suspension could bring on a case of man-math.

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

207 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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JonV12V said:
but the switchable suspension could bring on a case of man-math.


Cockernee

3,059 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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whoami said:
Cockernee said:
Better still get the BR Exhausts and it sounds even better and I have more BHP than a V12V S wink. Sadly still not a V12V S frown
Apart from the power, was it primarily the new suspension that moved it on from the V12?
Gearbox - . It does clutch learns automatically and the shift is very quick.

Suspension - Active suspension with 3 settings, Normal, Sport, Track. However even in track mode it is fine to ride kerbs as the system softens the un-loaded side of the vehicle. Quite dynamic in that respect.

Brakes - Generation 7 (whatever that means) with a new disc coating and Vanquish size pads / calipers to make the brakes better / smoother and more progressive.

Engine - New VCT version

Exhausts - biggrin

Steering replaced with speed sensitive steering now, so none of that juddering and very heavily assisted at parking speeds.

whoami

13,200 posts

270 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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Cockernee said:
Gearbox - . It does clutch learns automatically and the shift is very quick.

Suspension - Active suspension with 3 settings, Normal, Sport, Track. However even in track mode it is fine to ride kerbs as the system softens the un-loaded side of the vehicle. Quite dynamic in that respect.

Brakes - Generation 7 (whatever that means) with a new disc coating and Vanquish size pads / calipers to make the brakes better / smoother and more progressive.

Engine - New VCT version

Exhausts - biggrin

Steering replaced with speed sensitive steering now, so none of that juddering and very heavily assisted at parking speeds.
Interesting.

With regards to the "new' gearbox, I really disliked the ASM2; is ASM3 a real change for the better or just the same with slightly better/quicker software?

How did you like it compared to the manual box on the V12?

stimshady

1,323 posts

217 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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I am still not sold on the grill-less front and lack of manual...

i wonder if they'll do a Carbon Black version!?

new exhaust note sounds like it's good though smile

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

240 months

Thursday 8th August 2013
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Cockernee said:
Gearbox - . It does clutch learns automatically and the shift is very quick.

Suspension - Active suspension with 3 settings, Normal, Sport, Track. However even in track mode it is fine to ride kerbs as the system softens the un-loaded side of the vehicle. Quite dynamic in that respect.

Brakes - Generation 7 (whatever that means) with a new disc coating and Vanquish size pads / calipers to make the brakes better / smoother and more progressive.

Engine - New VCT version

Exhausts - biggrin

Steering replaced with speed sensitive steering now, so none of that juddering and very heavily assisted at parking speeds.
Sounding very much like Mickey K

AMArchie

270 posts

200 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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HWM has been kind enough to invite me up to Silverstone for a test drive of the V12VS (Aug 21), and I'm looking forward to the experience. Although the oft quoted "don't try unless you're ready to buy" may apply, I am a bit of a traditionalist, and prefer the stick to paddles, so I am not expecting to be swayed.
The selectable suspension settings sound tempting though.......scratchchin....I'm wondering if I'm about to get myself in trouble.....

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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V8 Animal said:
Cockernee said:
Gearbox - . It does clutch learns automatically and the shift is very quick.

Suspension - Active suspension with 3 settings, Normal, Sport, Track. However even in track mode it is fine to ride kerbs as the system softens the un-loaded side of the vehicle. Quite dynamic in that respect.

Brakes - Generation 7 (whatever that means) with a new disc coating and Vanquish size pads / calipers to make the brakes better / smoother and more progressive.

Engine - New VCT version

Exhausts - biggrin

Steering replaced with speed sensitive steering now, so none of that juddering and very heavily assisted at parking speeds.
Sounding very much like Mickey K
Correct on all counts hehe

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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AMArchie said:
HWM has been kind enough to invite me up to Silverstone for a test drive of the V12VS (Aug 21), and I'm looking forward to the experience. Although the oft quoted "don't try unless you're ready to buy" may apply, I am a bit of a traditionalist, and prefer the stick to paddles, so I am not expecting to be swayed.
The selectable suspension settings sound tempting though.......scratchchin....I'm wondering if I'm about to get myself in trouble.....
Archie did HMW charge you for this?

AMArchie

270 posts

200 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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No. I registered this afternoon, and there was no mention of a fee. From their invitation, I think I am a stand-in for a cancellation though...?



Edited by AMArchie on Friday 9th August 18:54


Edited by AMArchie on Friday 9th August 19:04

good grief

197 posts

225 months

Friday 9th August 2013
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My son in law had one over night from the factory this week. It was awesome, the sound was even better than the new vanquish, and as for performance ........


Cockernee

3,059 posts

190 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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whoami said:
Cockernee said:
Gearbox - . It does clutch learns automatically and the shift is very quick.

Suspension - Active suspension with 3 settings, Normal, Sport, Track. However even in track mode it is fine to ride kerbs as the system softens the un-loaded side of the vehicle. Quite dynamic in that respect.

Brakes - Generation 7 (whatever that means) with a new disc coating and Vanquish size pads / calipers to make the brakes better / smoother and more progressive.

Engine - New VCT version

Exhausts - biggrin

Steering replaced with speed sensitive steering now, so none of that juddering and very heavily assisted at parking speeds.
Interesting.

With regards to the "new' gearbox, I really disliked the ASM2; is ASM3 a real change for the better or just the same with slightly better/quicker software?

How did you like it compared to the manual box on the V12?
If you dislike the ASM2, then you will still not like ASM3 as it is the same but quicker basically. It is 7 speed as opposed to the manual 6 speed and it changes gear faster than I could ever do with a gear lever and clutch.

These things are personal, I understand the manual gearbox mutterings, but prefer robotic manual... Why, because I am still in control, no power sapping torque convertor, I can change gear quicker and never need to take a hand off the wheel to change gear. I can change down deeper into a corner and it feels more special to me. My Audi TD has a 6 speed manual box, so to me what is special about a 6 speed manual box ? Is it the fact that it is mated to a V12 engine perhaps? All very sentimental I guess, but for me it is slower.

I know people will say that all this is fine on a race track and as we are not, why do we need quicker.... My response would be why have a 500BHP V12 in the first place then wink

AMDBSNick

7,218 posts

192 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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AMArchie said:
HWM has been kind enough to invite me up to Silverstone for a test drive of the V12VS (Aug 21), and I'm looking forward to the experience. Although the oft quoted "don't try unless you're ready to buy" may apply, I am a bit of a traditionalist, and prefer the stick to paddles, so I am not expecting to be swayed.
The selectable suspension settings sound tempting though.......scratchchin....I'm wondering if I'm about to get myself in trouble.....
See you there Archie, I'm in the Black DBS with the pimped up black and red interior. Can't decide what I'll be wearing yet wink

mikey k

13,074 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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I had a slot but cannot make it now frown

AMDBSNick

7,218 posts

192 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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mikey k said:
I had a slot but cannot make it now frown
Make it happen Mikey yes