Cars sale prices on Piston Heads...why?
Cars sale prices on Piston Heads...why?
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pavka007

Original Poster:

522 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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Hi everybody,

I've been looking for a second car and I've notice that the car prices on cars advertised here are in average 20 to 25 % more that you could find them in other sites, including Autotrader.
The simple question is: WHY?

The way I see it there is not rime or reason for it. Why the people advertising here think that their cars are more valuable that they actually are?
Considering the fact that majority of us using this site are well aware of the current market values of many of the cars.

Feel free to share your view.
Thanks

Jim the Sunderer

3,261 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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It's to cover the listing fee.

pavka007

Original Poster:

522 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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Jim the Sunderer said:
It's to cover the listing fee.
smile WOW, on a 10K car this is working like 2.5 K smile

taters

124 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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As PH is more an enthusiasts site then enthusiasts tend to be over enthusiastic when coming to pricing. Theirs are always seemingly better than the tat on AT and eBay etc.


750turbo

6,164 posts

255 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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pavka007 said:
Jim the Sunderer said:
It's to cover the listing fee.
smile WOW, on a 10K car this is working like 2.5 K smile
Exactly!

This place need the income...

(Garlicks TVR is in need of some tlc)

wink

theboyfold

11,481 posts

257 months

Saturday 10th August 2013
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750turbo said:
pavka007 said:
Jim the Sunderer said:
It's to cover the listing fee.
smile WOW, on a 10K car this is working like 2.5 K smile
Exactly!

This place need the income...

(Garlicks TVR is in need of some tlc)

wink
And there is the payment per post system. Some of the old timers are on really good deals.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

255 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Is this compared to the car auctions you go to?

Your auction prices are the cheapest prices I have ever seen so the prices on here will look pricey.

This was your reply to someone who was offered £9400 from webuyanycar.com for their 58 plate 325d E92 M-Sport Auto coupe, in metallic grey with 120k miles on it.....

pavka007 said:
About 15 years ago I started going to car auctions and I never bought a car from any dealer again. ALL the local dealers are there week in and week out, shifting stock older than 60 days for prices you would not believe. Your car at the moment at auction is around 3.5/4K TOP.
If you are picking up cars for 1/3 or trade and 1/4 of retail then of course they are looking expensive.

Surely, being able to buy so cheaply why would you look on here anyway??

Matt UK

18,084 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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On the whole PH tends to have the better stuff, so more expensive.

Plus, all the Directors we have on here didn't get minted by just giving their cars away you know!

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Matt UK said:
On the whole PH tends to have the better stuff, so more expensive.

yes

surveyor

18,705 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I tend to find it in terms of price it goes...

PH
Autotrader
Ebay.

I'm wondering if it's worth paying more not to deal with the lying tossers who sell on ebay!

jamieduff1981

8,092 posts

171 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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A lot of the cars on PH seem to have far better maintenance histories than those on AT and Ebay.

PH cars tend not to have "all the usual dents and scrapes you'd expect from a car this age" either.

The Beaver King

6,095 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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pavka007 said:
Hi everybody,

I've been looking for a second car and I've notice that the car prices on cars advertised here are in average 20 to 25 % more that you could find them in other sites, including Autotrader.
The simple question is: WHY?

The way I see it there is not rime or reason for it. Why the people advertising here think that their cars are more valuable that they actually are?
Considering the fact that majority of us using this site are well aware of the current market values of many of the cars.

Feel free to share your view.
Thanks
Pistonheads is a website populated by car enthusiasts, therefore most of the cars being sold by members are maintained to a high standard by people who have a decent knowledge of the car.

I tend to find that Ebay is mainly used to offload crap (within reason) and Autotrader is used by people who know little about cars or are selling a day-to-day Eurobox. Pistonheads is mainly aimed at the prestige and sportscar market.

HTH and makes sense wobble

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Pistonheads is dearer because the adverts are free and the place is full of chancers who think it's worth a shot at a higher price price because it's a free advert.

If you pay through the balls for advert like on Autotrader you're more likely to give it a realistic price because you don't want to have to readvertise it.

EvoSlayer

1,952 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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The Beaver King said:
pavka007 said:
Hi everybody,

I've been looking for a second car and I've notice that the car prices on cars advertised here are in average 20 to 25 % more that you could find them in other sites, including Autotrader.
The simple question is: WHY?

The way I see it there is not rime or reason for it. Why the people advertising here think that their cars are more valuable that they actually are?
Considering the fact that majority of us using this site are well aware of the current market values of many of the cars.

Feel free to share your view.
Thanks
Pistonheads is a website populated by car enthusiasts, therefore most of the cars being sold by members are maintained to a high standard by people who have a decent knowledge of the car.

I tend to find that Ebay is mainly used to offload crap (within reason) and Autotrader is used by people who know little about cars or are selling a day-to-day Eurobox. Pistonheads is mainly aimed at the prestige and sportscar market.

HTH and makes sense wobble
Or...people believe PH is populated by car enthusiasts willing to pay more for the reasons you mention, so advertise them at an inflated price on here after buying them on ebay. party

CallorFold

860 posts

164 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I've mostly found PH to be cheaper/better value than Autotrader on the searches I've done.

I guess it just depends what car you're looking for smile

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I've found PH prices to be lower than the marque/model specific fora.
I have seen some real nails being sold by PHers in the past and to add balance, some great cars (2 of which I bought).

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

255 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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CallorFold said:
I've mostly found PH to be cheaper/better value than Autotrader on the searches I've done.

I guess it just depends what car you're looking for smile
I have too.

Having said that, when looking for a cheap ML recently they seemed more expensive.
Maybe it is the lower end that are more expensive?
To be fair though the ones I emailed about had had a lot of work down on suspension etc. compared to the ones on autotrader where the answer was 'I don't know when xxxx was last done to be honest' most of the time.


tbc

3,017 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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your argument is invalid

a friend of mine posted this and it's priced at least £1000 less than it's actually worth

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/b...

andymc

7,626 posts

238 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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I think the cheaper end of the market is way over priced especially when people ask for price on their pride and joy

MGJohn

10,203 posts

214 months

Tuesday 3rd September 2013
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Keep in mind asking price and what those cars actually change hands for can be well apart. That is if they ever do.

On another thread sees a PHer bemoaning no enquiries for his car. The fact that every other bugger also has a grey German Diesel to sell has nothing to do with it.

Mind you, it's a BMW/Audi/Merc/VW so well worth paying over the odds for it. .. wink
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