Could I survive without a kit lens?
Could I survive without a kit lens?
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v15ben

Original Poster:

16,215 posts

270 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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I have a Canon 550D and a dead kit lens which leaves a bit of a dilemma.
I already have a 10-22 and love it, but that and the 18-55 kit lens were my only lenses.

I thought about a 'better' direct alternative to the kit lens, perhaps a Tamron 17-50.

Then I thought for about the same money, a kit lens + a Canon 55-250 would give me more range. I've been considering a longer zoom for a while anyway.

Finally, I thought why not just get a 55-250 and forget the kit lens?

I shoot a variety of street shots, car stuff and landscapes so I think I might be able to get away with just a 10-22 and 55-250.

It leaves a reasonable-sized gap in my range, but as the kit isnt exactly the pinnacle of lenses, is it even worth getting a replacement, or should I get the IMO much better 55-250 and survive without the kit lens?

A random pair of lenses to have I guess, but a workable if not perfect pair. What do you think?

Pints

18,451 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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I switch between using my 18-55mm and 55-250mm. There's no way I could do without either, unless I got something which filled the gap. I think the two complement each other very well.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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Worth considering a ~35mm prime and the 55-250. 22-55 is a bit of a big gap to bridge otherwise.

Having said that though, what's the rush? Buy the 55-250mm now and see how you get on.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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I've never had a 'kit' lens.

I did have the 17-55 on the 7d which was ace. I didnt have any normal walkround on the 350d (just a 10-20, 50 etc).

I dont have a 'walk round/ kit lens on the 5d2 either. I prefer primes mostly these days.

A 10-20 with a 30-50mm prime would be fine - depends what you shoot.

damianmkv

639 posts

172 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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I "archived" my kits lens when I bought the Tamron 17-50. Nothing wrong with the kit, its just the Tamron is much better.

Craikeybaby

12,065 posts

254 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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You don't need to have every focal length covered.

At the moment I have an UWA zoom, and mid tele zoom and a 50mm prime, so as suggested above you could get away with the 55-250 and a 35mm prime. Unless, looking back at your images you find you are using the 18-55mm range a lot...

Ranger 6

7,660 posts

278 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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When I bought mine I simply just got a body and an 18-135 - perfect for our general use smile

The Jolly Todger

2,744 posts

209 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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I would go with a 35mm prime and then a longer zoom (55-250 or whatever).

Since buying the 35mm f1.8 for my Nikon I have never used the kit lens, it's just not needed if you have shorter and longer bases covered.

alistair1234

1,134 posts

175 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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Ive got a 70-300 IS USM for sale if you are interested?

Xerstead

724 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th August 2013
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I'll agree you don't need every focal length covered, but imo, 22-55 is right where most 'general stuff' photography happens. Wide enough to get everything in without being sat on top of it. Of course your photography may vary.
I bought my 500D almost 3 years ago and wasn't too keen on the basic kit lens so I bought a 50mm f1.4. Although excellent quality, it was too long for general use, (friends & family etc.) I just hadn't realised how far back I would need to be to get a shot. A few days after buying the 50mm I bought a used 20-35mm as I wanted something wider.
I found the 35-50mm gap wasn't a problem. The problem was needing both, from one shot to the next, having to change lens every time I wanted to bridge the gap. I usually didn't bother and just cropped in post.
Having that range in one lens would have been so much better so, after doing some research, I bought the Tamron 17-50mm and the 20-35mm went in the drawer* next to my kit lens smile
Imo, a 50mm lens can be to long for 'general stuff' and the step up from 22mm is quite a big one, a 35mm would be something to look into though smile
Which version of the kit lens did you have? I wasn't impressed with mine (mk1 I think,) but I've heard better things about the later versions with IS, you can get one used for <£100, a fair bit cheaper than the Tamron.

(*It's back out again now, I've just bought a 6D so can't use the 17-50mm. But with the wider angle of view from a full frame sensor, the 50mm is more versatile so the gap won't be as much of an issue.)

v15ben

Original Poster:

16,215 posts

270 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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In summary, I had a few beers and ended up buying a 55-250 online!
Decided, "Sod it, I can survive without a kit lens", ignoring all sensible advice.
Found a second-hand kit lens on Talk Photography cheaply the next day, so that solved the problem in the end!

vladcjelli

3,370 posts

187 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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Just looking at 55-250 prices at the moment, seems to give a decent bit of range for not too much cash.

How have you got on with yours? Pleased, disappointed or just 'meh'?

v15ben

Original Poster:

16,215 posts

270 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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I really like the 55-250 to be honest. Both my girlfriend and I have one in our camera bags and we use them regularly. I find it a practical lens and one that gives great quality and range for the money. I'd recommend one.

outnumbered

4,864 posts

263 months

Friday 10th January 2014
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I've got one, I like it, and I think it's good value.

It's obviously not a "fast" lens, and the AF mechanism is also not fast, but image quality is certainly good enough for most purposes. It's also very light and quite small when collapsed.