Nitron Coil Overs for DB9?
Discussion
great shocks, Ive had them on other cars
I think on a DB9 though, switchable suspension would be my preference. Something setup for road use
otherwise you are always running with a compromise or have to get under the car and twiddle some knobs on each corner when you want it a bit firmer
I think on a DB9 though, switchable suspension would be my preference. Something setup for road use
otherwise you are always running with a compromise or have to get under the car and twiddle some knobs on each corner when you want it a bit firmer
I had a set of Nitron tracks on my highly modified S2000.
Superb piece of kit and after much messing and tweaking I got a really good balance of handling vs ride quality
I have no doubt they will perform better than either the AM or BR switchable suspension
However you will need to do A LOT of home work before you buy them and A LOT messing to set them up, for instance;
What spring rates are needed to suit the car, the roads you use and your driving style
The springs need to be matched to the valving, which is linked to what ride height you want (oil capacity is reduced as you go lower)
Then you need to fit them, fronts will be easy enough and the adjusters will be accessible
The rears will be harder and you may need to look at remote adjusters
Then you need to set the preload, torque all the suspension up with load on it and set the ride height
I corner weighted mine for optimum weight distribution, some say it is not needed on a road car
Put a basic geo on it so it is drivable and doesn't try to kill you
Drive it for a bit to settle the suspension down
Then do a full geo to optimise it for what you want it to do (have a think about this BEFORE you buy the kit)
If you then need to adjust the ride height you need to redo the WHOLE corner weight/geometry again
Once I had it where I wanted it I found I didn't adjust them at all
Depending on what you want to achieve you may be better with a set of lowering springs or a BR switchable suspension conversion
Depending on where you are I'd suggest giving Chris Franklin a call at Centre Gravity, he preps A LOT of high end cars, knows suspension systems, Nitron, Bilstein and a few other damper guys inside out. He is a suspension geek!
http://www.centregravity.co.uk/
Superb piece of kit and after much messing and tweaking I got a really good balance of handling vs ride quality
I have no doubt they will perform better than either the AM or BR switchable suspension
However you will need to do A LOT of home work before you buy them and A LOT messing to set them up, for instance;
What spring rates are needed to suit the car, the roads you use and your driving style
The springs need to be matched to the valving, which is linked to what ride height you want (oil capacity is reduced as you go lower)
Then you need to fit them, fronts will be easy enough and the adjusters will be accessible
The rears will be harder and you may need to look at remote adjusters
Then you need to set the preload, torque all the suspension up with load on it and set the ride height
I corner weighted mine for optimum weight distribution, some say it is not needed on a road car
Put a basic geo on it so it is drivable and doesn't try to kill you
Drive it for a bit to settle the suspension down
Then do a full geo to optimise it for what you want it to do (have a think about this BEFORE you buy the kit)
If you then need to adjust the ride height you need to redo the WHOLE corner weight/geometry again
Once I had it where I wanted it I found I didn't adjust them at all
Depending on what you want to achieve you may be better with a set of lowering springs or a BR switchable suspension conversion
Depending on where you are I'd suggest giving Chris Franklin a call at Centre Gravity, he preps A LOT of high end cars, knows suspension systems, Nitron, Bilstein and a few other damper guys inside out. He is a suspension geek!
http://www.centregravity.co.uk/
mikey k said:
Depending on where you are I'd suggest giving Chris Franklin a call at Centre Gravity, he preps A LOT of high end cars, knows suspension systems, Nitron, Bilstein and a few other damper guys inside out. He is a suspension geek!
http://www.centregravity.co.uk/
And when you call make sure you have a spare hour http://www.centregravity.co.uk/
AMDBSNick said:
mikey k said:
Depending on where you are I'd suggest giving Chris Franklin a call at Centre Gravity, he preps A LOT of high end cars, knows suspension systems, Nitron, Bilstein and a few other damper guys inside out. He is a suspension geek!
http://www.centregravity.co.uk/
And when you call make sure you have a spare hour http://www.centregravity.co.uk/
and concentrate hard or you will miss something importantmikey k said:
I had a set of Nitron tracks on my highly modified S2000.
Superb piece of kit and after much messing and tweaking I got a really good balance of handling vs ride quality
I have no doubt they will perform better than either the AM or BR switchable suspension
However you will need to do A LOT of home work before you buy them and A LOT messing to set them up, for instance;
What spring rates are needed to suit the car, the roads you use and your driving style
The springs need to be matched to the valving, which is linked to what ride height you want (oil capacity is reduced as you go lower)
Then you need to fit them, fronts will be easy enough and the adjusters will be accessible
The rears will be harder and you may need to look at remote adjusters
Then you need to set the preload, torque all the suspension up with load on it and set the ride height
I corner weighted mine for optimum weight distribution, some say it is not needed on a road car
Put a basic geo on it so it is drivable and doesn't try to kill you
Drive it for a bit to settle the suspension down
Then do a full geo to optimise it for what you want it to do (have a think about this BEFORE you buy the kit)
If you then need to adjust the ride height you need to redo the WHOLE corner weight/geometry again
Once I had it where I wanted it I found I didn't adjust them at all
Depending on what you want to achieve you may be better with a set of lowering springs or a BR switchable suspension conversion
Depending on where you are I'd suggest giving Chris Franklin a call at Centre Gravity, he preps A LOT of high end cars, knows suspension systems, Nitron, Bilstein and a few other damper guys inside out. He is a suspension geek!
http://www.centregravity.co.uk/
good answer; went through this with my Exige S, but that was for a track set up (rarely drove the car on the road)Superb piece of kit and after much messing and tweaking I got a really good balance of handling vs ride quality
I have no doubt they will perform better than either the AM or BR switchable suspension
However you will need to do A LOT of home work before you buy them and A LOT messing to set them up, for instance;
What spring rates are needed to suit the car, the roads you use and your driving style
The springs need to be matched to the valving, which is linked to what ride height you want (oil capacity is reduced as you go lower)
Then you need to fit them, fronts will be easy enough and the adjusters will be accessible
The rears will be harder and you may need to look at remote adjusters
Then you need to set the preload, torque all the suspension up with load on it and set the ride height
I corner weighted mine for optimum weight distribution, some say it is not needed on a road car
Put a basic geo on it so it is drivable and doesn't try to kill you
Drive it for a bit to settle the suspension down
Then do a full geo to optimise it for what you want it to do (have a think about this BEFORE you buy the kit)
If you then need to adjust the ride height you need to redo the WHOLE corner weight/geometry again
Once I had it where I wanted it I found I didn't adjust them at all
Depending on what you want to achieve you may be better with a set of lowering springs or a BR switchable suspension conversion
Depending on where you are I'd suggest giving Chris Franklin a call at Centre Gravity, he preps A LOT of high end cars, knows suspension systems, Nitron, Bilstein and a few other damper guys inside out. He is a suspension geek!
http://www.centregravity.co.uk/
SydneySE said:
Think this may be better than than the switchable suspension....
I assume a DB9? It;s a big GT with a stiff chassis that handles very well when pushed.I press a button on the dash... and the whole character of the car is transformed. It's magical, and very good indeed.
If you try and impose Exige characteristics onto a DB9... it won't work
bogie said:
great shocks, Ive had them on other cars
I think on a DB9 though, switchable suspension would be my preference. Something setup for road use
otherwise you are always running with a compromise or have to get under the car and twiddle some knobs on each corner when you want it a bit firmer
yes, remember you're a fellow elise/exige man I think on a DB9 though, switchable suspension would be my preference. Something setup for road use
otherwise you are always running with a compromise or have to get under the car and twiddle some knobs on each corner when you want it a bit firmer
Think you may be right.... so much so I've had a chat with Mike at Bamford Rose, and my car will likely be a test mule for developing a spring height adjustment (threaded sleeve+ perch) and hydraulic lift (front only) version of the switchable suspension.
I couldnt find any solution off the shelf that allowed me to lower my db9 20-25mm (for aesthetic reasons over my DBS 20" wheels), yet be able to navigate the obstacle course that is the mountain sized speed humps of central london with a lowered DB-9, and also offer comfort or sporting handling at touch of a switch.
Stay tuned, Mike had some bloody good suggestions, quite the engineer!
yeti said:
I assume a DB9? It;s a big GT with a stiff chassis that handles very well when pushed.
I press a button on the dash... and the whole character of the car is transformed. It's magical, and very good indeed.
If you try and impose Exige characteristics onto a DB9... it won't work
its a DB-9 volante (05 model).I press a button on the dash... and the whole character of the car is transformed. It's magical, and very good indeed.
If you try and impose Exige characteristics onto a DB9... it won't work
yes, doing the F/R roll bar upgrade (doing this part myself, installing DBS parts, BR are installing shear plates); also (see post above) working with Mike at Bamford Rose to get a lowering (well heigh adjustable really) solution in conjunction with a Hydraulic Lift kit for the front to be a part of their swithable suspension.
I actually want to lower the car 20-25mm for aesthetic reasons after fitting the DBS wheels; but I live in central london, and a lowered DB9 would not be practical, and its my daily car) so need a nose lift as well...
the difference to your switchable suspension is I would be using DBS damper/spring units rather than the BR specification (partly cost as i can get the parts cheap, partly I like the DBS settings).
SydneySE said:
its a DB-9 volante (05 model).
yes, doing the F/R roll bar upgrade (doing this part myself, installing DBS parts, BR are installing shear plates); also (see post above) working with Mike at Bamford Rose to get a lowering (well heigh adjustable really) solution in conjunction with a Hydraulic Lift kit for the front to be a part of their swithable suspension.
I actually want to lower the car 20-25mm for aesthetic reasons after fitting the DBS wheels; but I live in central london, and a lowered DB9 would not be practical, and its my daily car) so need a nose lift as well...
the difference to your switchable suspension is I would be using DBS damper/spring units rather than the BR specification (partly cost as i can get the parts cheap, partly I like the DBS settings).
Souind like a very interesting project yes, doing the F/R roll bar upgrade (doing this part myself, installing DBS parts, BR are installing shear plates); also (see post above) working with Mike at Bamford Rose to get a lowering (well heigh adjustable really) solution in conjunction with a Hydraulic Lift kit for the front to be a part of their swithable suspension.
I actually want to lower the car 20-25mm for aesthetic reasons after fitting the DBS wheels; but I live in central london, and a lowered DB9 would not be practical, and its my daily car) so need a nose lift as well...
the difference to your switchable suspension is I would be using DBS damper/spring units rather than the BR specification (partly cost as i can get the parts cheap, partly I like the DBS settings).
When I had H&R lowering springs on the car, I think about a 25mm drop, I would catch it daily around SW15/SW18. It's such a hearbreaking noise
BR's switchable shock ride height works well for me, but no doubt the looks would be more serious if lowered a little more. I am on DBS wheels too so I will be watching with interest
yeti said:
Souind like a very interesting project
When I had H&R lowering springs on the car, I think about a 25mm drop, I would catch it daily around SW15/SW18. It's such a hearbreaking noise
BR's switchable shock ride height works well for me, but no doubt the looks would be more serious if lowered a little more. I am on DBS wheels too so I will be watching with interest
Mike said he had a few enquiries for a lift; i found what I thought where two kits that could be both used in conjunction with the switchable suspension for a solution to the height and lift.. so he will prob end up selling a good solution based on how thorough his approach is! (eg siting the hydraulic hoses where they can't ignite if fluid leaks... and ensuring the switch for the lift doesnt work at speed by accident etc)When I had H&R lowering springs on the car, I think about a 25mm drop, I would catch it daily around SW15/SW18. It's such a hearbreaking noise
BR's switchable shock ride height works well for me, but no doubt the looks would be more serious if lowered a little more. I am on DBS wheels too so I will be watching with interest
BTW, its because of your pics that I went DBS wheels! I do actually want to keep most changes to the car to be Aston parts where possible...
in fact my next mod may well be DBS rear bumper and diffuser and side skirts (but standard front bumper-as like the smoother look of it). Subtle changes, all aston parts..
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