Just turned down a $60000 job to sell Toyotas. Am I mad?
Just turned down a $60000 job to sell Toyotas. Am I mad?
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white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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As above, wife not happy, struggling to explain my reasoning but the other job just didn’t feel right. To clarify, one job will pay $60000 per year (about 40000 pounds) and the other job that I have chosen is selling Toyotas, which may pay that if I’m lucky but not guaranteed.In the absence of any friends to discuss it with, what do you guys think?

Original Poster

5,429 posts

205 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Not all about the money (to some).

If you feel you made the right choice, well, you made the right choice!

Black can man

31,973 posts

197 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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white_goodman said:
As above, wife not happy, struggling to explain my reasoning but the other job just didn’t feel right. To clarify, one job will pay $60000 per year (about 40000 pounds) and the other job that I have chosen is selling Toyotas, which may pay that if I’m lucky but not guaranteed.In the absence of any friends to discuss it with, what do you guys think?
Great user name sir,


Good luck chap.

Jasandjules

72,580 posts

258 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Which will you enjoy the most?

white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Probably selling Toyotas (as long as I’m busy)! I have more experience in car sales (5 years). The other job is engineering (designing farm machinery). I have an engineering degree but haven’t worked in engineering for over 10 years, so don’t feel as confident in my ability to do the job I guess!

Mobile Chicane

21,984 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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In all honesty, yes, you are mad.

The cars are expensive, the cost of ownership is high due to service intervals, and the product range isn't there, compared with eg. Nissan.

Pommygranite

14,466 posts

245 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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$- US or Australian?

Also, what was the job you turned down?


Bullett

11,174 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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If the higher paying job wanted you without the direct experience then they really wanted you and were obviously prepared to put in some time to get you fully up to speed.

I had a similar dilemma recently. Two jobs on the table, both paying roughly the same wage and benefits - one was a job I could do with my eyes shut essentially the same job I'd been doing for years. The 2nd job was in a related field but not a product set I knew or understood. I took the 2nd job as it expanded my skills base and if they were prepared to take the risk with me, I could with them.

My wife also though I was mad. She's happier now.

Hoofy

80,002 posts

311 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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If you can sell, why not? You're more in control of your own destiny. Could you break the $60k mark? Bring home $90k and shut your wife up. biggrin

Personally, as I can't sell ice cream in summer, I'd be better off in the fixed salary job.

okgo

42,101 posts

227 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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If you're any good you'll make that selling cars at most brands.

Jasandjules

72,580 posts

258 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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I say go with the one that makes you happiest. You spend an awful lot of your life at work, doing something you don't enjoy is not good.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Potentially better to do a job you know you can do than go in as a low guy on the totem pole only to struggle and underperform.

white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
In all honesty, yes, you are mad.

The cars are expensive, the cost of ownership is high due to service intervals, and the product range isn't there, compared with eg. Nissan.
To be honest when you take the cars out of the equation that you’re not going to sell many of (i.e. 370Z, GTR), Toyota probably has a stronger product range in Canada.

white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Pommygranite said:
$- US or Australian?

Also, what was the job you turned down?
Canadian dollars. The other job is designing farm machinery.

white_goodman

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4,521 posts

220 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Bullett said:
If the higher paying job wanted you without the direct experience then they really wanted you and were obviously prepared to put in some time to get you fully up to speed.

I had a similar dilemma recently. Two jobs on the table, both paying roughly the same wage and benefits - one was a job I could do with my eyes shut essentially the same job I'd been doing for years. The 2nd job was in a related field but not a product set I knew or understood. I took the 2nd job as it expanded my skills base and if they were prepared to take the risk with me, I could with them.

My wife also though I was mad. She's happier now.
Thanks, that does make some sense actually!

Russ T Bolt

1,760 posts

312 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
the cost of ownership is high due to service intervals
Your experience is very different to mine, I find them incredibly cheap to run, service is truly fantastic (Audi really need to learn from them).

In my opinion the only valid criticism is that their cars are pretty dull, but not everybody wants an exciting drivers car.

In my case I wanted something reliable and cheap to run in order to use my money for other things, they fit the bill perfectly.

Mobile Chicane

21,984 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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white_goodman said:
Mobile Chicane said:
In all honesty, yes, you are mad.

The cars are expensive, the cost of ownership is high due to service intervals, and the product range isn't there, compared with eg. Nissan.
To be honest when you take the cars out of the equation that you’re not going to sell many of (i.e. 370Z, GTR), Toyota probably has a stronger product range in Canada.
Is Canada where you are?

What does Toyota have compared with the Nissan Qashqais and Jukes which are selling in Europe in their droves.

The UK factory in Sunderland can't make them quick enough. They're cheap, yet fully loaded.

Good luck to you though.

white_goodman

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Thursday 15th August 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
Is Canada where you are?

What does Toyota have compared with the Nissan Qashqais and Jukes which are selling in Europe in their droves.

The UK factory in Sunderland can't make them quick enough. They're cheap, yet fully loaded.

Good luck to you though.
They don't sell the Qashqai here but the Corolla, Camry and RAV4 are consistently top 10 sellers (no Nissans in the top 10). They also sell other SUVs. The Highlander (which is a 7-seater) and the FJ Cruiser, which is a retro SUV based on the original FJ-Landcruiser.

Russ T Bolt

1,760 posts

312 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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Op, I know nothing of designing farm machinery, but I would have thought car sales will give you the ability to earn more and potentially better prospects.

FWIW I think Toyota is quite a good place to be, for the average driver their cars are pretty good, some of their off readers and pickups are iconic.

They also seem to be leading on petrol/ hybrid technology rather than diesel.

Edited by Russ T Bolt on Friday 16th August 20:24

Mobile Chicane

21,984 posts

241 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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I've worked for both, and while Toyota has it hands down on quality - as countless customer satisfaction surveys will attest - the current product range isn't exactly inspiring, at least in the UK.

Hopefully in Canada the OP will do well flogging RAV4s and Hi-Luxes.