Insurance won't cover a hardtop!
Insurance won't cover a hardtop!
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devnull

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3,847 posts

180 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Anyone ever had this? Thought of getting one for the winter months and reduced interior noise as I take my '5 on the motorway a lot. Rang insurers, said they wouldn't cover me if I added hardtop, factory original and all.


That's a new one on me. Anyone else had it?

Oldandslow

2,405 posts

229 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Sounds crazy to me. They were sold with hards tops as standard at one point and every UK car had the fixings.

Which insurer?

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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That does sound crazy. I can understand it putting the price up a bit (they are quite steal-able) but that's all.
I take it you are not 18 with no ncb...

devnull

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3,847 posts

180 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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No indeed, i'm an old git with plenty of NCB. For the sake of forum rules, the insurers take after a certain wood chopping tool or weapon wink

I would vote with my feet and go somewhere else, but seeing as the '5 is a second car, they mirror my NCB from my main vehicle so i get a hefty discount, plus business cover (which I do need due to work).

It's not the end of the world, but it is a very odd decision. I'm sure LoonR1 would retort with 'the insurers will decide what they will and won't want to cover' and he'd be right, but it's an odd policy!

Munter

31,330 posts

264 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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I never thought to tell my insurer when I had one.....oops

wilbo83

1,550 posts

188 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Surely they were a factory option, you wouldn't have to declare other factory fitted upgraded options

New POD

3,851 posts

173 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Given your decent NCB, how much would it cost you to find a new insurer and cancel, and how much would they lose.

Suggest a recorded letter to CEO of axia ? explaining why you moved.

Over at MX5 nutz hard tops and insurance have been discussed quite a bit. It counts as a mod usually, as in most cases it was a dealer fit accessory, and makes more reason to steal the car, (but makes it a bit more difficult.

In most cases it does not add any cost, but it won't reduce it. unless mid term.

Also check that it's insured when stored and not in use.

devnull

Original Poster:

3,847 posts

180 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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New POD said:
Given your decent NCB, how much would it cost you to find a new insurer and cancel, and how much would they lose.

Suggest a recorded letter to CEO of axia ? explaining why you moved.

Over at MX5 nutz hard tops and insurance have been discussed quite a bit. It counts as a mod usually, as in most cases it was a dealer fit accessory, and makes more reason to steal the car, (but makes it a bit more difficult.

In most cases it does not add any cost, but it won't reduce it. unless mid term.

Also check that it's insured when stored and not in use.
I'm not that desperate for a hardtop, more suprised it wasn't covered fullstop. My NCD is 9 years, but as the '5 is a second car, I was getting quotes of around £1500 - wood chopping ins co were kind enough to mirror my NCD i decided to stay.

New POD

3,851 posts

173 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Wifey's Mx5 is just a 90 bhp poverty spec 1.6 mk1, and costs £210 on a classic policy.

Previous owner sold the dealer supplied hardtop as they had never used it and had nowhere apart from lounge to store it.

vescaegg

28,700 posts

190 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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OP you will regret a hardtop the minute you want to go out on a cool, crisp, clear winters morning and cant put the bloody roof down with the heaters on full!

Arguably the best type of top down driving biggrin

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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vescaegg said:
OP you will regret a hardtop the minute you want to go out on a cool, crisp, clear winters morning and cant put the bloody roof down with the heaters on full!

Arguably the best type of top down driving biggrin
Agree 100%! I much prefer a cold clear winters day, top-down, 0C, hat, gloves & coat, heater on full - to a hot mid-summer day. Even better at night!

NRS

25,171 posts

224 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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MX-5 Lazza said:
vescaegg said:
OP you will regret a hardtop the minute you want to go out on a cool, crisp, clear winters morning and cant put the bloody roof down with the heaters on full!

Arguably the best type of top down driving biggrin
Agree 100%! I much prefer a cold clear winters day, top-down, 0C, hat, gloves & coat, heater on full - to a hot mid-summer day. Even better at night!
Main problem is potential damage to the roof when lowering the roof and it's a bit cold. Which means if you have a hard top and someone to help remove it then can be better. Reminds me that I need to find a girlfriend before winter to be able to help with this! Last one was happy down to -10C being out in it. Might only be 1 1/2 months until snow starts properly here so not too long to look! biggrin

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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NRS said:
Main problem is potential damage to the roof when lowering the roof and it's a bit cold.
Nah, just leave the top up until the heater is blowing hot and has softened the top a bit then drop it. Alternatively, fit a fabric/mohair hood which are fine in cold conditions and is probably cheaper than a hard-top.

LocoCoco

1,432 posts

199 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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NRS said:
Main problem is potential damage to the roof when lowering the roof and it's a bit cold. Which means if you have a hard top and someone to help remove it then can be better. Reminds me that I need to find a girlfriend before winter to be able to help with this! Last one was happy down to -10C being out in it. Might only be 1 1/2 months until snow starts properly here so not too long to look! biggrin
This is why I own a hard-top, tried to lower the hood on a snowy day and all the stitches which held the rear screen on ripped apart, expensive mistake which won't happen again.

It never even occured to me to declare the thing to my insurers either.

vescaegg

28,700 posts

190 months

Wednesday 21st August 2013
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Heater needs to be well underway and blasting out before the roof is removed. It warms up and becomes supple enough to take down after about 5-10minutes.

Love the bloody heaters in the mx5. They can actually get painfully hot!