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anonymous-user

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55 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=31405

That's going to be an interesting atmosphere.

Ahonen

5,017 posts

280 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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Now that's funny.

The DJ 27

2,666 posts

254 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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Who's going to get the second Williams seat then? If FW has any sense he'll try and snap up Antony Davidson as quick as he can. I hope to God he doesn't sign DC

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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I still can not understand why he would want to leave BAR in the first place. that is a very good car with potential and honda are still getting more bhp from the engine even now. the reliability issues are not as significant and on many occasions, Button has been the only man to take the fight to Ferrari.

Was it money or did he really believe that the Wiliams was going to be a better car? Even after they risked everythign with the unusual nose on this years car. Lets face it, neither Montoya or Schumacher R have done anything to write home about this season! I think that Button was making a wrong move and I hope he puts it all behind him and can go back to working with BAR in the fashion that has rewarded both parties over the last 18 months.

I hope it hasnt created a rift in the team which can not be resolved

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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I still can not understand why he would want to leave BAR in the first place. that is a very good car with potential and honda are still getting more bhp from the engine even now. the reliability issues are not as significant and on many occasions, Button has been the only man to take the fight to Ferrari.

Was it money or did he really believe that the Wiliams was going to be a better car? Even after they risked everythign with the unusual nose on this years car. Lets face it, neither Montoya or Schumacher R have done anything to write home about this season! I think that Button was making a wrong move and I hope he puts it all behind him and can go back to working with BAR in the fashion that has rewarded both parties over the last 18 months.

I hope it hasnt created a rift in the team which can not be resolved

andy_b

727 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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I think it is that Williams know how to win races and championships. They say wins are always easier for drivers once you've won one and I suppose its the same for teams. Alhough they have come close, BAR haven't won a race yet. Granted neither has Williams, but IMHO the likes of Williams and McLaren have more of a chance in the future than say BAR. I'm not sure BAR's success is sustainable (I hope it is).

BAR have been fortunate in that Williams and McLaren have struggled. 03 wasnt great for Williams, but they still won a race (well I think!).

Thats probably his (or his managments reasoning.


I'm sure this isn't finished with yet!

FourWheelDrift

88,550 posts

285 months

Wednesday 20th October 2004
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So Kramer Vs Kramer is over and Dave Kramer won and has custody of the prodigal son.

But what of the back stairs sprog that no-one wants to claim, will he shuffle away to his Monte-Carlo Hotel and take up residence on the top floor Willard White-esq? Or will he accept the enforced sabbatical and play dominos with Mika Hakkinen in his outdoors sauna. Claiming to return stronger then ever in 2006 and 2006 will be his year this time, absolutely, definately, Mika said so.

Who knows?

Who cares.

As long as something happens on the racetrack next year all this will be forgotten. I bet you have all forgotten about a similar CRB wrangle between Williams and McLaren over none other than the square jawed one after the 1995 season. Robot Ron won that one. Sir F has not got a good record in CRB decisions.

So Williams now have an empty seat crying out for a lion hearted racer to fill it, "I said racer Antonio, r a c e r".

I hear Nigel Mansell has bought a new race suit & helmet

mg511

1,754 posts

242 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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I think most of the problems between Jenson and BAR were caused by Jenson's money grabbing manager, whose services he has dispenced with. I think Webber & Pizzonia will be the weakest Williams driver line up for about 30 years, I don't rate Webber, may have mentioned that before...

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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I would find it highly amusing if, having won the contract war, BAR dropped Button anyway...

That 'll teach him.

Maybe his manager was to blame, but whatever the real story the way that Button sneaked around refusing to answer phone calls from Dave Richards wanting to know what the was going on, was well out of order.

Button behaved badly and refusing to talk to BAR lacked any grace or honour. If he does stay, he 'll have some bridges to build.

pdV6

16,442 posts

262 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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toppstuff said:
I would find it highly amusing if, having won the contract war, BAR dropped Button anyway...

That 'll teach him.

...after waiting for Williams to fill their seat!

andy_b

727 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st October 2004
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David Richards didn't behave very well either. It was agreed by all parties to keep the discussions private, then phoned the Times straight away. Gave some false into to the press and generally was the one leaking all the info. Lost a lot of his respect in the paddock.

Sooner JB gets rid of his managment the better (if he hasnt already)

williamp

19,263 posts

274 months

Sunday 24th October 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:
So Kramer Vs Kramer is over and Dave Kramer won and has custody of the prodigal son.

But what of the back stairs sprog that no-one wants to claim, will he shuffle away to his Monte-Carlo Hotel and take up residence on the top floor Willard White-esq? Or will he accept the enforced sabbatical and play dominos with Mika Hakkinen in his outdoors sauna. Claiming to return stronger then ever in 2006 and 2006 will be his year this time, absolutely, definately, Mika said so.

Who knows?

Who cares.

As long as something happens on the racetrack next year all this will be forgotten. I bet you have all forgotten about a similar CRB wrangle between Williams and McLaren over none other than the square jawed one after the 1995 season. Robot Ron won that one. Sir F has not got a good record in CRB decisions.

So Williams now have an empty seat crying out for a lion hearted racer to fill it, "I said racer Antonio, r a c e r".

I hear Nigel Mansell has bought a new race suit & helmet


I think you'll find Kramer are not in F1, but sports car racing

I agree about Coulthard: he got 13 wins, but has never managed to get the 14th win. So for those of you who don't think 13 is unlucky then...

Hut49

3,544 posts

263 months

Monday 25th October 2004
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The DJ 27 said:
Who's going to get the second Williams seat then? If FW has any sense he'll try and snap up Antony Davidson as quick as he can. I hope to God he doesn't sign DC


Agreed. If there's any sense () in F1 then Davidson, who's contracted to BAR, should be given leave for 2005 to drive for Williams so that when Button goes to Williams in 2006 Davidson can come back as a fully fledged F1 front runner to take up the seat vacated by Button. Too simple? But I don't see a seat for DC even in a non-points scoring 3rd car run by Williams. Shame DC didn't get the Sauba seat rather than Villeneuve, that was his last chance I think.

mg511

1,754 posts

242 months

Tuesday 26th October 2004
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Peter Sauber must be taking a close look at JV's contract desperately looking for a get-out clause, JV has been even worse than I thought he'd be in the last 3 races.