Cayman S exhaust question with Sport Mode
Cayman S exhaust question with Sport Mode
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les5709

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323 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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Hi all,

New to the Porsche forum and was wondering if you guys can help me out with a question around the Cayman S exhaust and the SPORT button please?

Whenever I engage SPORT mode, the exhaust note changes. If I was to buy an aftermarket exhaust would this effect how the exhaust works with and without SPORT mode on?

I guess what i am asking... is the SPORT mode change in the exhaust, or is it else where that just adds more gases to make it sound more throaty.

Thanks
Steve

V8KSN

4,713 posts

213 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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les5709 said:
Hi all,

New to the Porsche forum and was wondering if you guys can help me out with a question around the Cayman S exhaust and the SPORT button please?

Whenever I engage SPORT mode, the exhaust note changes. If I was to buy an aftermarket exhaust would this effect how the exhaust works with and without SPORT mode on?

I guess what i am asking... is the SPORT mode change in the exhaust, or is it else where that just adds more gases to make it sound more throaty.

Thanks
Steve
I must admit I don't know how the Cayman sports exhaust works but what you mean by add more gasses confused

Hawmaws

575 posts

199 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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Assuming you have a Porsche Sports Exhaust (PSE), then the button opens up valves in the exhaust itself. You can hear them clicking if you switch the button on and off at idle.

Callughan

6,313 posts

221 months

Friday 23rd August 2013
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If you have PSE flap opens otherwise as you would say it's just more gassmile

les5709

Original Poster:

323 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Yea, I do hear the opening and closing when i hit the button. I just wasn't sure if it was in the internals of the exhaust or if it was at the manifold it opened something up.

When i say "more gasses" I just assumed that whenever the flap opens somewhere, it just forces more gasses through the car quicker making for increased noise level from the exhaust.

Thanks all for replying smile

In summary from your comments, My understand is that if I was to get an aftermarket exhaust, I would have the same exhaust note if the sport button is on or off. This is because an aftermarket exhaust would not have the flaps to open and close on different modes?

Thanks
Steve

juansolo

3,012 posts

307 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Correct. Another option would be to fit some 200CEL cats and leave the rest of the exhaust as is. Keeps the switching, makes it louder. Carnewal do them.

Edited by juansolo on Tuesday 27th August 11:18

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Best mod you can do for PSE is just unplug the solinoid in the engine bay (5 min job).

Because even with the baffles open, sports mode on, they will open and close around 28mph to adhere to EU noise regs. Which is crap.

I pulled the plug and wished I'd done it earlier in ownership.

les5709

Original Poster:

323 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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DoubleSix said:
Best mod you can do for PSE is just unplug the solinoid in the engine bay (5 min job).

Because even with the baffles open, sports mode on, they will open and close around 28mph to adhere to EU noise regs. Which is crap.

I pulled the plug and wished I'd done it earlier in ownership.
Any pics / diagrams of the correct solenoid that I need to pull? - I am happy to tinker smile but cannot claim to be the most mechanically minded.

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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les5709 said:
DoubleSix said:
Best mod you can do for PSE is just unplug the solinoid in the engine bay (5 min job).

Because even with the baffles open, sports mode on, they will open and close around 28mph to adhere to EU noise regs. Which is crap.

I pulled the plug and wished I'd done it earlier in ownership.
Any pics / diagrams of the correct solenoid that I need to pull? - I am happy to tinker smile but cannot claim to be the most mechanically minded.
I don't have the pics but remember following a thread after a bit of Googling.

If you were to post up a pic of your engine bay I could point it out very easily. It sits centrally and is mounted on a little metal arm with a hole in (from memory). It's not at all difficult to do... I am not at all handy with the spanners as they say.

les5709

Original Poster:

323 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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DoubleSix said:
I don't have the pics but remember following a thread after a bit of Googling.

If you were to post up a pic of your engine bay I could point it out very easily. It sits centrally and is mounted on a little metal arm with a hole in (from memory). It's not at all difficult to do... I am not at all handy with the spanners as they say.
thanks for this - will do!

ta-kro

104 posts

242 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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les5709

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323 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Seems like mine is gone already??




DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Eh? Gone?, it cant be gone or you'd have no control over the PSE. What year is your car mate?

les5709

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323 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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DoubleSix said:
Eh? Gone?, it cant be gone or you'd have no control over the PSE. What year is your car mate?
Lol, 57 plate, 2008. The button works fine :-s, any ideas from the pic?

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Hmmm I scrutinising like a Wheres Wally pic but cant see anything obvious. Can you get down under the car and trace a line up from the exhaust, probably not.

Hopefully someone else can chip in cause thats an odd one.confused

But do persevere as this mod is well worth effort if you like it always on, which most do!

Have you tried driving it through the 30mph mark with windows down and PSE on?, you will hear the system closing and opening. Drove me mental. smile

les5709

Original Poster:

323 posts

207 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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DoubleSix said:
Hmmm I scrutinising like a Wheres Wally pic but cant see anything obvious. Can get down under the car and trace a line up from the exhaust, probably not.

Hopefully someone else can chip in cause thats an odd one.confused

But do persevere as this mod is well worth effort if you like it always on, which most do!

Have tried driving it through the 30mph mark with windows down and PSE on?, you will hear the system closing and opening. Drove me mental. smile
No worries, will patch it back together again now. Thanks for having a look. Yeah just about to head up the road in it few a few 30s so will listen out for that.

Cheers again for all your help!
Steve

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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les5709 said:
No worries, will patch it back together again now. Thanks for having a look. Yeah just about to head up the road in it few a few 30s so will listen out for that.

Cheers again for all your help!
Steve
No worries fella, check back in and let ys know how you get on.

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les5709

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323 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Strange - I didn't really hear any difference in noise between 30mph. It sounded throaty enough even at low speed.

Encase it makes a difference to anyone's thought process... mine has the Sports Chrono package and Active Suspension. Whenever i hit the sport button it actives both the sport mode and the stiffer suspension. I can then knock it back to the softer suspension by turning it off, but still keep sport mode on.

I want to check again when i get home if I can hear the clicking noise of the opening and closing of the exhaust. When i was driving yesterday (at very low speed) I found it difficult to hear the clicking noise.

I did own a Cayman 3 years ago for a few months. It had the exhaust button rather than the Sport button and I clearly remember hearing the clicking noise you have all spoken about between modes. Not sure if its different - or if my current one doesn't actually have the sport exhaust :O






DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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les5709 said:
Not sure if its different - or if my current one doesn't actually have the sport exhaust :O
I was beginning to wonder this but didn't want to day so without knowing a bit more...

Not sure if you're aware but some have the sports exhaust tips but not the actual exhaust. Your manual should have a sticker inside with all the build codes for you particular cars options etc

mrdemon

21,146 posts

294 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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les5709 said:
Strange - I didn't really hear any difference in noise between 30mph. It sounded throaty enough even at low speed.

Encase it makes a difference to anyone's thought process... mine has the Sports Chrono package and Active Suspension. Whenever i hit the sport button it actives both the sport mode and the stiffer suspension. I can then knock it back to the softer suspension by turning it off, but still keep sport mode on.

I want to check again when i get home if I can hear the clicking noise of the opening and closing of the exhaust. When i was driving yesterday (at very low speed) I found it difficult to hear the clicking noise.

I did own a Cayman 3 years ago for a few months. It had the exhaust button rather than the Sport button and I clearly remember hearing the clicking noise you have all spoken about between modes. Not sure if its different - or if my current one doesn't actually have the sport exhaust :O
there should be a PSE button, it's not part of sports mode.
I have 2 buttons, one for sports and one for exhaust.

I don't think you have a sports exhaust, as you have nothing in your engine bay or a PSE button.