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wedggie

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78 posts

159 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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I know this been covered a million times, but i'm stuck with a serious misfire and am at the limit of my knowledge. so, it seems, is my mechanic!

at about 3000 revs, the engine stops firing almost all together, then the revs drop off, and its sweet as a nut again. ive changed the ignition coil, temp sensor, rotor arm, fuel, found a hole in a fuel line so changed those at the back.. also fiddled with the ecu connector which is very tight. did notice some hot relays in there though... could it be connected?

I'm stuck. a 390 without revs about 3.5k souldnt be allowed on the road!

hallsie

2,185 posts

250 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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I had an intermittent fault with the 350 that turned out to be the ignition amp located under the coil.

I ended up removing it and replacing the distributor for one that had the amp on the side.

Cured all missfires and revving problems.

Ive got 2 spare if you are local?

Stu

wedggie

Original Poster:

78 posts

159 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Thanks Stu, not local I'm afraid. In the channel islands of all places so theres not even a specialist i can reach within 4/5 hours! Ill have a look at that though.


TVRIK

892 posts

187 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Sorry if you have already done this, but have you put a new dizzy cap on?

Number 7

4,113 posts

292 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Have you pulled the plugs and looked at them - this should give some clue, particularly if one has a different appearance to the others.

ElvisWedgely

2,715 posts

195 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Problem sounds electrical to me.

As well as the obvious, I would also check:-

Distributor cap for arc marks on the inside earthing to distributor body. (Replace cap)

High tension jumps at high revs so check leads are not touching or close to anything metal. (better visible in the dark when engine running)

Distributor advance, including weights within the distributor and it's advance mechanism.

Tony. TCB.

hallsie

2,185 posts

250 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Oh, Channel Islands, not very close to Kent Im guessing!


superwedge

1,286 posts

178 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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i had a misfire,it was the ecu,try and another one and try it, my money on this ecu is why it not rev over 3500,

Trickie Dickie

2,399 posts

264 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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When I had my 350i I had an intermittant problem which literally came on and off like a switch.
Started fine then once warmed up (like a switch) ran like a dog

Someone suggested the ECU so I got a friend to join me at my mechanics and swapped them easily
and fault instantly cured

A kind Wedge friend (who likes to remain anonymous)re soldered all the joints of my ECU and the problem was resolved


HTH & good luck

Trickie

wedggie

Original Poster:

78 posts

159 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Thanks guys. spent the afternoon with my head under the front looking for problems. Dizzy was done recently so think i'll leave that as an unlikely possibility and leave till last. when i start her up, there is what sounds like a crack... a spark perhaps from somewhere, but im bu**ered if i can see where its from. Theres no hope of hearing it once shes running, but i suppose it could still be there. could be one to look into inthe dark.

anyone point me in the right direction for an ecu? hopefuly wont need one, but if i required s newby, is fleabay best?

Stu

Rockettvr

2,019 posts

173 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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Coil?

SLB

273 posts

271 months

Saturday 24th August 2013
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As previously said, ignition amplifier on the side of the dizzy. I had a similar issue and eventually it packed-up completely leaving me stranded.

pasogrande

375 posts

287 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Stu,

If you can hear the spark, but not see it, repeat the test after dark.

Wilf.

Toby Tram

425 posts

195 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Trickie Dickie said:
When I had my 350i I had an intermittant problem which literally came on and off like a switch.
Started fine then once warmed up (like a switch) ran like a dog

Someone suggested the ECU so I got a friend to join me at my mechanics and swapped them easily
and fault instantly cured

A kind Wedge friend (who likes to remain anonymous)re soldered all the joints of my ECU and the problem was resolved


HTH & good luck

Trickie
So is this something I need to watch out for Rich!! ;-)

Trickie Dickie

2,399 posts

264 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Toby Tram said:
So is this something I need to watch out for Rich!! ;-)
NO - not at all.

The ECU on NEO has been fully resoldered (one might say professionally!!!) and should last another 20 years plus

Cheers
Trickie

wedggie

Original Poster:

78 posts

159 months

Thursday 3rd October 2013
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evening all, a quick update on progress....

after a lot of tinkering and ruling out, i discovered a problem with the connector on the ignition amp, which was causing a weak spark when hot. fixed and the problem is now 99% sorted.. pulls like a train and the 390se is a beast as reported. i realised this when i saw the back of the car making a cencerted effort to overtake the front in todays slippery conditions!

one problem left to be classed as fully fixed, she still has a brief stutter when accelerating hard, not a cut out or misfire, more like lightly flooded. could it be as simple as plugs? i ask as she ticks over a little fast (i think) about 1200rpm and does smell petroly.

also, the misfire has put a strain on the clutch which is very high on the pedal, i assume this cant be altered?

Stu

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Thursday 3rd October 2013
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What was the problem exactly, was the connector loose or corroded, or was the crimp onto the wire bad? For future reference.

For your last remaining problem try driving it for a long run it might go away on its own when the plugs get the crud burnt off.

As for the clutch well high is good probably - as long as it doesn't slip. TO text this, stick it in 4th at about 30-40 with a nice long road in front of you, and floor it. If the revs rise suddenly during the acceleration then it's started slipping and you may need a new pressure plate.

wedggie

Original Poster:

78 posts

159 months

Thursday 3rd October 2013
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corroded it seems, I can only imagine that someone managed to get something on it that should be there and it ate away at the connector. whatever the cause, its miles better, just not perfect.

clutch seemed ok today, but i'll do a check on it tomorrow (in the sunshine hopefully). assuming theres nothing cheap about a new plate?!

Looks like ill take a few trips around the island tomorrow then. It used to end up in a visit from the rozzers with the chim so no doubt ill have a whole response team tomorrow!

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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Hmm I can see a problem then testing the clutch - the A9 out of St Helier going north is straight-ish but only for a mile and then you're in the drink! However looking on google streetview I spotted a "notional speed limit" sign so at least you can give it some welly. Guernsey has similar problems - Forest Road looks straight-ish for about a mile.

Clutch pressure plates are only about £25 - £30 but it's the fitting that costs (unless you do it yourself - about 8 hours?)

wedggie

Original Poster:

78 posts

159 months

Friday 4th October 2013
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true, coast is usually the best bet here in Guernsey. not too familiar with Jerseys roads, but i think the speed limit is the island limit of 45mph... still 10mph more than here though! perfect for a snarling v8!