Interesting sale dilemma

[eltax91]

Hi all

I took a high mileage e39 in part ex for my newer 5 series. It's got an MOT until the end of October. I took it for a cheeky test this morning, on the basis that I was rowing it on ebay tonight come what may.

Unfortunately it failed on 3 items. Head lamp aim and track rod end which are minor, but it also needs some welding which I have neither the time nor inclination to sort.

So, the question is, what do I put in the eBay ad? Do I mention today's mot? Or leave it alone?

What would you do?

[TheThing]

Be honest.

[Tophatron]

I'd mention it, if you can give them the fail report it'll let people know exactly what needs done.

If I see a car advertised with only a month or so's MoT, I pretty much assume the owner has taken it for one and it's failed.

[Ozzie Osmond]

No choice - get it fixed and then sell with a fresh MOT. The need for "welding" almost certainly means you know the car is not "roadworthy" and I think that makes it a criminal offence to sell it without fully disclosing the problems.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Here you go

"The Road Traffic Act makes it illegal for anyone to sell a car that is not roadworthy. This applies equally to private sellers and car dealers. Anyone who sells an unroadworthy car may be prosecuted and fined £5000."

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/scotland/consumer_s/...

[inman999]

Its difficult to put a value on 12 months MOT but surely it would be more than a couple of hundred quid it would cost to put a ticket on it.

[eltax91]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Here you go

"The Road Traffic Act makes it illegal for anyone to sell a car that is not roadworthy. This applies equally to private sellers and car dealers. Anyone who sells an unroadworthy car may be prosecuted and fined £5000."

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/scotland/consumer_s/...

Thanks for the info. So, selling it fully disclosed is the only option.

[inman999]

Its difficult to put a value on 12 months MOT but surely it would be more than a couple of hundred quid it would cost to put a ticket on it.

[eltax91]

inman999 said:

Its difficult to put a value on 12 months MOT but surely it would be more than a couple of hundred quid it would cost to put a ticket on it.

Maybe, but I need it gone. Also can't really take it anywhere for repair or the retest now as it doesn't have insurance on it. Used temp insurance to take it for mot this morning.

Question number 2 for today then. Does this car still have an mot? Is the current one still valid?

[TVR1]

OP, you may not be aware but as the car has now failed an MOT, it supercedes the October expiry one. In a nutshell, your car no longer has a valid MOT. You can't just use the previous one as a fall back. The car will already be showing a fail on the database so will also preclude you from retaxing the car until it passes.

[Riley Blue]

Oh really....?

[SV8Predator]

TVR1 said:

OP, you may not be aware but as the car has now failed an MOT, it supercedes the October expiry one. In a nutshell, your car no longer has a valid MOT. You can't just use the previous one as a fall back. The car will already be showing a fail on the database so will also preclude you from retaxing the car until it passes.

Bullst I'm afraid, the car still has a current MOT.

[littleredrooster]

TVR1 said:

OP, you may not be aware but as the car has now failed an MOT, it supercedes the October expiry one. In a nutshell, your car no longer has a valid MOT. You can't just use the previous one as a fall back. The car will already be showing a fail on the database so will also preclude you from retaxing the car until it passes.

Sorry, wrong. Existing MOT is still valid. Whether the car is still roadworthy is another pan of goldfish altogether, but does not affect the validity of the certificate.

We do this subject twice per month on here - where have you been?

[HaloGen8]

If the welding is no biggie worth doing just so from a selling point of view it's more attractive to a buyer.

A case of looking at resale price as it is compared with what it could be worth with 12 months ticket minus the times and cost of repairs.

[honest_delboy]

Declare the failed items (at least people know what they're getting into) and stick it on ebay. I think you'll be surprised how much interest you'll get. I sold 2 MOT failures on ebay no problems at all.

Good luck and remember to post back how much you got for it.

[TVR1]

littleredrooster said:

TVR1 said:

OP, you may not be aware but as the car has now failed an MOT, it supercedes the October expiry one. In a nutshell, your car no longer has a valid MOT. You can't just use the previous one as a fall back. The car will already be showing a fail on the database so will also preclude you from retaxing the car until it passes.

Sorry, wrong. Existing MOT is still valid. Whether the car is still roadworthy is another pan of goldfish altogether, but does not affect the validity of the certificate.

We do this subject twice per month on here - where have you been?

Not driving cars that require an MOT. probably

Happy to stand corrected! Everyday is a schoolday!
Agreed, the only caveat is that the OP isn't entitled to drive a defective vehicle just because he may have a valid cert. That could land him in hot water if ,God forbid, he has an accident as a result of the defect.

Out of interest, what needs welding?

[SiH]

littleredrooster said:

Sorry, wrong. Existing MOT is still valid. Whether the car is still roadworthy is another pan of goldfish altogether, but does not affect the validity of the certificate.

We do this subject twice per month on here - where have you been?

You only see it twice a month? Where have you been?! It's practically a daily occurrence...

[steveo3002]

did you get an idea of the welding..might be a £50 plate?

[littleredrooster]

SiH said:

littleredrooster said:

Sorry, wrong. Existing MOT is still valid. Whether the car is still roadworthy is another pan of goldfish altogether, but does not affect the validity of the certificate.

We do this subject twice per month on here - where have you been?

You only see it twice a month? Where have you been?! It's practically a daily occurrence...

I actually typed "twice per week" then changed my mind as I didn't want to exaggerate.

[eltax91]

steveo3002 said:

did you get an idea of the welding..might be a £50 plate?

It's just says 'front offside seat belt anchorage point'